VCDS (VAG-COM) codes and programmable options for Golf Mk7

[DV52]

Actually, I'm wrong!

It can be achieved with this harness apparently. Cool stuff

=http://www.vcdssydney.com/store/p12/Dynamic_Indicator_Adaptor_for_Original_OEM_Genuine _Tail_lights.html


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Kiaorana: Hello again. I could be wrong (I often am), but I believe that it's more than just a cable/harness that's required to make the turn-signal LEDs sequence in the manner shown in the video.

As I'm sure that you already know, there is only one pin that is brought-out on the connector for each of inner/outer turn signal clusters. Now it has been a very, very, very long time since I sat in classroom to be taught electronic design, but it ain't physically, or electrically possible to implement the LED chase effect if you only have access to one pin for the entire cluster segments!

I believe that Deutsche Auto Parts sell a harness that flashes the entire inner cluster a few seconds after the outer cluster, but it's not a true LED chase as per the video. They also want your first born child as the price for their harness (I recall)

The only way to implement LED chaser is to either design the effect into a third party fitting from scratch, or to break-open the VW fittings and access each LED individually. I suspect that the former option applied to the tails in the video!! I would be interested to know at what price these units are sold - I suspect that the seller charges a price close to the annual budget of a small African nation!!

Don

PS: your link is broken!

[DV52]

thanks for the reply! see image^
so upon braking the red led at the indicator does light up, but otherwise it doesn't.

fonsii: OK, that's much clearer - thanks for the claification. I don't have LED tail-lights on my mk7, so I'm not accross the detail for the one LED segment at the intersection of the two clusters. What I do know however is that it's not possible to access this segment on its own from outside the housing. Each of the clutters (as a complete unit) has a single wire that is brought out of the housing and that is terminated at the connector.

So, one of two options is possible with your problem (I think): Either the effect that you observe is normal (I don't know), or there is a fault in the intersecting LED at the point that you identified - in which case it's either a chuck-out job, or a warranty matter)

Perhaps someone else here who has a mk7 with LED tails can comment?

Don

[danielb_c]

Kiaorana: Hello again. I could be wrong (I often am), but I believe that it's more than just a cable/harness that's required to make the turn-signal LEDs sequence in the manner shown in the video.

As I'm sure that you already know, there is only one pin that is brought-out on the connector for each of inner/outer turn signal clusters. Now it has been a very, very, very long time since I sat in classroom to be taught electronic design, but it ain't physically, or electrically possible to implement the LED chase effect if you only have access to one pin for the entire cluster segments!

I believe that Deutsche Auto Parts sell a harness that flashes the entire inner cluster a few seconds after the outer cluster, but it's not a true LED chase as per the video. They also want your first born child as the price for their harness (I recall)

The only way to implement LED chaser is to either design the effect into a third party fitting from scratch, or to break-open the VW fittings and access each LED individually. I suspect that the former option applied to the tails in the video!! I would be interested to know at what price these units are sold - I suspect that the seller charges a price close to the annual budget of a small African nation!!

Don

PS: your link is broken!

I give you - 1 African nation



Boo, hiss

[danielb_c]

fonsii: OK, that's much clearer - thanks for the claification. I don't have LED tail-lights on my mk7, so I'm not accross the detail for the one LED segment at the intersection of the two clusters. What I do know however is that it's not possible to access this segment on its own from outside the housing. Each of the clutters (as a complete unit) has a single wire that is brought out of the housing and that is terminated at the connector.

So, one of two options is possible with your problem (I think): Either the effect that you observe is normal (I don't know), or there is a fault in the intersecting LED at the point that you identified - in which case it's either a chuck-out job, or a warranty matter)

Perhaps someone else here who has a mk7 with LED tails can comment?

Don

This is of my 2016 Golf R, with headlights on, no brake applied.

[fonsii]

yeah, the LEDs there definitely work when brakes are applied, so the LEDs are not faulty.i guess i dont' mind it as much but once my friend pointed it out to me i can't unthink it -.- thanks anyway! i've already tried dealing with VW in regards to a few little things and i ended up wanting to stomp on their head on a kerb. so i might just not deal with VW right now about the leds...

fonsii: OK, that's much clearer - thanks for the claification. I don't have LED tail-lights on my mk7, so I'm not accross the detail for the one LED segment at the intersection of the two clusters. What I do know however is that it's not possible to access this segment on its own from outside the housing. Each of the clutters (as a complete unit) has a single wire that is brought out of the housing and that is terminated at the connector.

So, one of two options is possible with your problem (I think): Either the effect that you observe is normal (I don't know), or there is a fault in the intersecting LED at the point that you identified - in which case it's either a chuck-out job, or a warranty matter)

Perhaps someone else here who has a mk7 with LED tails can comment?

Don

[danielb_c]

yeah, the LEDs there definitely work when brakes are applied, so the LEDs are not faulty.i guess i dont' mind it as much but once my friend pointed it out to me i can't unthink it -.- thanks anyway! i've already tried dealing with VW in regards to a few little things and i ended up wanting to stomp on their head on a kerb. so i might just not deal with VW right now about the leds...

Are both tail lights the same?

[fantomasz]

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[Kiaorana]

Kiaorana: Hello again. I could be wrong (I often am), but I believe that it's more than just a cable/harness that's required to make the turn-signal LEDs sequence in the manner shown in the video.

As I'm sure that you already know, there is only one pin that is brought-out on the connector for each of inner/outer turn signal clusters. Now it has been a very, very, very long time since I sat in classroom to be taught electronic design, but it ain't physically, or electrically possible to implement the LED chase effect if you only have access to one pin for the entire cluster segments!

I believe that Deutsche Auto Parts sell a harness that flashes the entire inner cluster a few seconds after the outer cluster, but it's not a true LED chase as per the video. They also want your first born child as the price for their harness (I recall)

The only way to implement LED chaser is to either design the effect into a third party fitting from scratch, or to break-open the VW fittings and access each LED individually. I suspect that the former option applied to the tails in the video!! I would be interested to know at what price these units are sold - I suspect that the seller charges a price close to the annual budget of a small African nation!!

Don

PS: your link is broken!

Hi Don,

That's what I tho get too, hence why my first reply was that it was only possible with an aftermarket Tail Lights, it wouldn't work with OEM.

But then I saw that harness which claims to do just that woth OEM tail lights.

There's a video at the bottom, is that the same as what DAP is selling?

Dynamic Indicator Adaptor for Original OEM Genuine Tail lights



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[fonsii]

both the same. not even sure when it started happening

Are both tail lights the same?

[agentthumb]

fonsii, skip to 1:05 of this video. I think this demonstrates exactly what you are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJiANBAp8ps

[fonsii]

yep, those 2 Brake/Indicator RED LEDs are suppose to turn ON when my brakes are not applied. somehow they're off and i have a feeling ti's something i need on VCDS a while ago.

fonsii, skip to 1:05 of this video. I think this demonstrates exactly what you are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJiANBAp8ps

[DV52]

yep, those 2 Brake/Indicator RED LEDs are suppose to turn ON when my brakes are not applied. somehow they're off and i have a feeling ti's something i need on VCDS a while ago.

fonsii: The puzzle gets more interesting! I wonder whether the missing LED segment is a simple Leuchte priority conflict issue - I've not heard of this before, but I suppose that it's possible (perhaps).

Generally with conflicts, one function becomes more dominant, but from agentthumb's video it looks like this segment contains either a multi-colored LED, or it has two different colored LEDs. This might result in a dead segment when a Leuchte programming conflict can't be resolved -but I'm guessing.

Have you ever made any VCDS changes to the tails? If so, please describe these

Don

[fonsii]

yep. two coloured LEDs. one for indicator and one for brakes. brakes work, indicator work, driving in general not work, i have Scandinavian DRL on now, but before (at night without braking) and now still no red light on until braking.

i have done VCDS changes, and i am trying to recall what i did to it. I think it's something i did while i was at the mechanic borrowing his vcds cable...maybe i should have a look at the adaption of a stock golf R to get an idea where i went wrong. fun times!

fonsii: The puzzle gets more interesting! I wonder whether the missing LED segment is a simple Leuchte priority conflict issue - I've not heard of this before, but I suppose that it's possible (perhaps).

Generally with conflicts, one function becomes more dominant, but from agentthumb's video it looks like this segment contains either a multi-colored LED, or it has two different colored LEDs. This might result in a dead segment when a Leuchte programming conflict can't be resolved -but I'm guessing.

Have you ever made any VCDS changes to the tails? If so, please describe these

Don

[DV52]

...maybe i should have a look at the adaption of a stock golf R to get an idea where i went wrong. fun times!

fonsii: I developed a BCM compare spreadsheet (see HERE) that contains an Aussie R adaptation map listed in column D - enjoy !!

Don

PS: It's better that you download the spreadsheet rather than view it on-line - dropbox can't manage my format

[kyratz]

if there is anyone with a ross tech cable around willoughby or lower north shore of sydney that is interested in lending me their cable or coding a few tweaks to my MK7 GTI please reach out - happy to compensate accordingly