Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

[brad]

So much for VW saying the engines don't need running in...

Unless they run them in for 5,000km on the bench... and then everyone would whinge because they were being sold 2nd hand engines.

They would have to hook each engine up to a load of some description as there is no point just free revving.

I don't think any of the engines that feature low tension rings (VW, Subaru, etc) are run-in until at least 15,000km. Some don't seal until 25,000km. That doesn't make VWs 500ml/1000km acceptable unless it's in the first 1000km - after that it should be tapering off.

I didn't think Mikefc's usage was terrible for the first 8,000km & I got the impression that he hadn't physically checked the oil since new. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Mikefc]

Yeah, I dont think my engine has being run in - I am still using 10L/100km fuel consumption in inner city driving
I have checked the oil a few times as I have had to drive interstate although not the last 2000ks

[gavs]

what was the brand and type of oil u used again Gavs? was it Penrite? and I remembered u had to special order it

Fuchs Titan C1 GT3 5W30.

It's only special order if you don't have a Bursons nearby who sell it in 5L bottles. if you want top-up 1L bottles or the big drums, then it's s pecial order through a distributor. There's one in Hallam I think...

[prcurrie]

Consumption test done - only used 300ml in 1,000kms. So I guess that does prove the brand of oil you use does mean different figures for consumption.

Was using Liqui Moly and it was well above 500ml / 1,000kms but the for consumption test they used Castrol.....

Still, a brand new car using 300ml every 1,000kms isn't ideal

[kaanage]

I don't think any of the engines that feature low tension rings (VW, Subaru, etc) are run-in until at least 15,000km. Some don't seal until 25,000km. That doesn't make VWs 500ml/1000km acceptable unless it's in the first 1000km - after that it should be tapering off.

I didn't think Mikefc's usage was terrible for the first 8,000km & I got the impression that he hadn't physically checked the oil since new. Maybe I'm wrong.

It doesn't really seem to matter with the Twinchargers - some have the oil blowby/low compression issue and some don't, with mileage and driving style not making any difference.
Gambit is the best example, I know of. His original GTi didn't use any noticable oil and when it was replaced after hail damage, the replacement used lots of oil. Same driver and I doubt he would have run them in any differently.

[RossP]

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High & excessive oil consumption (regardless of VW's "spec")
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[muli]

The fabia section doesn't seem to have people reporting of oil usage here but its same engine so surely same issues?. Read on a finnish site Vagareena that was posted early in the thread and there was one polo gti owners engine using +6L in 30k.

Whats the RRP on a 1l topup bottle at VW

[alexz]

The fabia section doesn't seem to have people reporting of oil usage here but its same engine so surely same issues?. Read on a finnish site Vagareena that was posted early in the thread and there was one polo gti owners engine using +6L in 30k.

Whats the RRP on a 1l topup bottle at VW

don't pay for top up oil!!! they should be providing for you!!! everytime i go to my dealer i get another litre!

[Gambit]

Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

It doesn't really seem to matter with the Twinchargers - some have the oil blowby/low compression issue and some don't, with mileage and driving style not making any difference.
Gambit is the best example, I know of. His original GTi didn't use any noticable oil and when it was replaced after hail damage, the replacement used lots of oil. Same driver and I doubt he would have run them in any differently.

Quotes for the truth! My first red gti hardly used much oil I think I was 1lt down at 5k km with a full self oil change. My new white gti guzzles through the oil . at 5k Kms I had consumed at least 1.5-2lt of oil and I am at 21k Kms now and I have lost count how many times I have had to self top up. Right now its low on oil again and I have to take another trip to the dealer for more oil, so I can do a full oil change. I ran in both cars in the exact same fashion and that's hard from the get go and drive the in the same manner. Unfortunately after owning two of these cars , I take it as part and parcel of ownership and just deal with it. I could easily go back to a dealer and crack a hissy fit about consumption, but I have very little time to bother and have the car off the road with all the hassle. I might get a proper sample for a full oil analysis this time round.

[Zepelin]

MY12.5 GTI

1 litre of oil topped up at 2500kms

1.4 litres of oil topped up at 7500kms

Is this normal? They are doing a kiwi shell be right consumption test now: "Come back in 1000kms or whatever and we will see how much oil it has used" If its above x then we will do the new breather valve, if its above some other value then we will go to VW New Zealand to await further instructions.

Car seems great apart from this.

[fontana302]

Just finished latest official oil consumption test:

711km, 1.3litres of oil consumed. That's 1.83l/1000km, getting worse as last weeks was 1.62l/1000km. Back of car is absolutely covered on oil.

VWA have all the evidence now and have agreed to an engine replacement, which is on it's way to the dealer.

I haven't heard of any worse oil consumption than this.

[prcurrie]

VWA have all the evidence now and have agreed to an engine replacement, which is on it's way to the dealer.

Engine rebuild you mean????

[Stirl]

Im experiencing high oil usage also, I cant recall the amount of times I have topped up but Im now on my 3rd 5L Oil purchase which is nearly finished. I dont have the time to call into the dealer for a top up when needed so I just purchase my own. I've been using Liqui Moly 5W-30 for the most part, interesting to note that Castrol Longlife Professional 5W30 seems to improve the consumption level.

I've been told by my service adviser that VW Aust are waiting till the vehicle reaches 12mths or 15,000km before attempting the consumption test. Here's an extract from his email.....

I have checked in with Volkswagen technical in regard to your oil consumption concern as I have noted the same concern with other Polo GTI’s. It appears there procedure with vehicles with this concern is very sticked. Volkswagen have advised that once the vehicle has reached 12 months of age or travelled 15,000 kilometres we must then after completing the 12 month or 15,000 kilometre service start an oil consumption program for the vehicle. This will involve using travelling 1000 kilometres in the vehicle after the service is compete, once the vehicle has reached the full 1000 kilometres the oil will then be drained and measured to confirm how much oil has be consumed. If the consumption readings recorded are outside of Volkswagens specifications the engine will need to be inspected further.

[ill0gitech]

That's some pretty poor grammar from your mechanic right there.

[Gambit]

I dumped the oil in mine last night at 21k km's thats 6k km's after the 15k service and there was 2.25lts left in the sump ! Not good !
Any replaced with 4lts of fresh castrol, new oil filter and sump plug from VW.