Mk2 Tiguan Tuning

[ewok666]

Both my Tiguans, APR and etuners, the economy was improved with conservative driving. The difference between the tunes was the APR massive initial torque and then run out of puff (goes with their philosophy of more boost is better) and the more linear power delivery of etuners.


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Have to say that I prefer to have max torque available even if it can't hold it as high as it would with an IS38. That said, the additional cost of the turbo swap, for daily driving, is hard to justify.

[TheTig]

Well, he must be confused. Cars can have a fairly flat torque curve but power is always lower at low RPMs unless you have a really odd torque curve. Usually max power is at high revs after torque is dropping off.

Power (kW) = Torque (N.m) x Speed (RPM) / 9.5488.

The above tells you that, should torque stay constant, power increases with RPM. To say that you want the same power across the rev range means you would need to keep dropping torque linear with the rev increase. Hardly desirable.

Cheers for the info what you’re saying makes a lot of sense, I’m keen for extra grunt, the 162 goes well but I want more 😜.

Am curious to know from those who’ve applied a tune or chipped their car what the effect on insurance is?

[INASNT]

Inquired about a stage 1 ECU and DSG tune with Jordie at ETuners, quoted $1600. Don't believe they've done a Tig yet the way he was speaking, however they have one booked in next week for stage 2, he was happy to share the results afterwards. Seems to think an extra 40Kw at the wheels should be achievable. Just waiting on my car to come back from the repairers and see how it is before deciding if I'll do it or not. Was sitting at a red light when someone decided to keep going and ran straight up the back, they were doing around 60Km when they hit, the car went under mostly, took out the rear black bumper, damage doesn't look to bad, but terrible vibrations driving afterwards. Smash repairer reckon it's the exhaust out of alignment... Anyway will share the results when I check in with Jordie next week unless the person is already on here

Im going in to etuners the 29th for stage 1 ECU and DSG. Putting in a BMC drop in filter and doing pops and crackles in Sport Mode

[INASNT]

Maybe you mean Nm....kw always increases with rpm up to a certain point, usually where torque drops off.

Have had three cars with stage 1 APR and was/am very happy. Without it the Tiguan felt a bit dull and boring to drive. To be fair, I’m comparing it to an RS3, also tuned, of course.

No I mean KW and the shape of the curve. Yes KW increases with rpm, its the KW per RPM that's important.

Example below, same car 2 different tunes. Black line tune make more power but right at the top end, blue line tune makes less power but much bigger area under the graph the whole rpm range. Blue tune would be a lot better to drive and would win any race.

[ewok666]

Cheers for the info what you’re saying makes a lot of sense, I’m keen for extra grunt, the 162 goes well but I want more .

Am curious to know from those who’ve applied a tune or chipped their car what the effect on insurance is?

I’m with GIO and they don’t seem to care much. 4th tunes car and no issues. As long as you don’t add/swap the turbo, add a roll cage or have custom paint (yes, paint!) no issue.

I felt the same, power wise. The car is SOOO much better with the tune but I honestly only bought because the APR tune (or others) was available. If it hadn’t been then I would have looked at a higher powered Audi.

[Janus77]

Anyone gotten a deal on an APR tune, or they’re all around the $1300 mark just for the ecu flash?


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[tigger73]

Cheers for the info what you’re saying makes a lot of sense, I’m keen for extra grunt, the 162 goes well but I want more ��.

Am curious to know from those who’ve applied a tune or chipped their car what the effect on insurance is?

I drove the 162TSI R-line at the VW drive days and although it has reasonable performance for a family SUV it never felt really urgent.

I suggest talking to your insurance company before you modify your car about what they will/won't insure. Some companies (e.g. Allianz) won't allow any modifications, whereas an insurer like Shannons will allow you to pretty much do anything to your car that you like. Main thing is that you disclose your modifications to your insurer as you don't want to get into a sticky situation where you make a claim and it gets denied due to not disclosing modifications. Insurer will claim that it increases their risk/exposure.

There's many insurance companies that will accept a software tune but not all so make sure you check and get it listed as a modification on your policy.

[Janus77]

Good advice.


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[Colinginger]

Volksmuller had APR tune for $1k last weekend

[Colinginger]

I wrote a whole new thread about the APR tune that I can’t be bothered to type out again.

But can say bang for buck it’s very impressive and it feels like it should have done from the factory! The torque increase is amazing, pulls really hard and now feels & drives like it looks with the Rline pack!

In normal mode - it now has the torque to avoid the DSG kicking down and pulls well.. a bit more torque to make normal driving easier

In sports mode - massive difference. From 2k rpm pulls and then 3k really kicks in 🙂 it now feels sporty and when accelerating can now feel it making use of the 4motion.

The car now feels like it should.. very happy wirh the improvement.

Should add it feels like a very turbo boost pressure tune.. but that’s not a bad thing.. if the turbo messes up it’s probably the cheapest part to replace. Plus having different driving modes helps when you want to run around on something less aggressive.

[Ozsko]

I always wonder how an insurance company would know how a tune had been done if there was no physical modification done to the vehicle.

[Ozsko]

I drove the 162TSI R-line at the VW drive days and although it has reasonable performance for a family SUV it never felt really urgent.

It was never designed to be a sports car was it. I suspect the only reason Oz got the 162 was to replace the bi turbo diesel which I would have bought in preference if they had supplied it here though NZ got both so maybe not.

[tigger73]

It was never designed to be a sports car was it. I suspect the only reason Oz got the 162 was to replace the bi turbo diesel which I would have bought in preference if they had supplied it here though NZ got both so maybe not.

No it's a sporty car not a sports car. And not even really a performance SUV. You need to be running in the mid-5 seconds 0-100 to be a considered a performance SUV these days. Audi RSQ3 and Porsche Macan Turbo are both 4.4sec so the 162 Tig is pedestrian in comparison.

[Ozsko]

No it's a sporty car not a sports car. And not even really a performance SUV. You need to be running in the mid-5 seconds 0-100 to be a considered a performance SUV these days. Audi RSQ3 and Porsche Macan Turbo are both 4.4sec so the 162 Tig is pedestrian in comparison.

It's not even a sporty car as it handles like a boat around corners.

[tigger73]

It's not even a sporty car as it handles like a boat around corners.

I mean a sporty SUV. It doesn’t handle too badly to be honest but could do with a bit less body roll.


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