Mk2 Tiguan Tuning

[INASNT]

Melb_Tiggy, if you don't mind me asking, how many km's did you have on the car before you had it flashed?
Also any issues, and how many km's have you done since it was tuned?

The IS38 and downpipe will have that Tiggy moving QUICK. Will you upgrade the clutch for that one too, guess it's mandatory for that sort of power?

I'm still in a bit of disbelief that such huge gains are possible from only an ECU tune on the stage 1..

Remember its not about the peak kw reading, its about area under the graph that's important. No point having a peak of 235 at redline with the rest of the rpm range 185kw.

[Janus77]

Area under looks good to me (93 RON fuel is only slightly lower across the range)

[INASNT]

Would love to see this on an independent dyno on a stage 1 car.

Photoshop is a great program

[Hole46]

Yes, APR’s graphs and numbers should be taken with a grain of salt.


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[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Melb_Tiggy, if you don't mind me asking, how many km's did you have on the car before you had it flashed?
Also any issues, and how many km's have you done since it was tuned?

The IS38 and downpipe will have that Tiggy moving QUICK. Will you upgrade the clutch for that one too, guess it's mandatory for that sort of power?

I'm still in a bit of disbelief that such huge gains are possible from only an ECU tune on the stage 1..

I did the upgrade at around 2500km, I’m at 8300km with no issues or CEL. I have the 7 speed DSG and was looking into a TCU upgrade, perhaps after the turbo swap.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

I was looking into a dyno at one stage, but now saving my pennies for the next mod. I have used the dragy gps timer though and posted a 5.45s 0-100/h.

[TheTig]

I was looking into a dyno at one stage, but now saving my pennies for the next mod. I have used the dragy gps timer though and posted a 5.45s 0-100/h.

Inquired about a stage 1 ECU and DSG tune with Jordie at ETuners, quoted $1600. Don't believe they've done a Tig yet the way he was speaking, however they have one booked in next week for stage 2, he was happy to share the results afterwards. Seems to think an extra 40Kw at the wheels should be achievable. Just waiting on my car to come back from the repairers and see how it is before deciding if I'll do it or not. Was sitting at a red light when someone decided to keep going and ran straight up the back, they were doing around 60Km when they hit, the car went under mostly, took out the rear black bumper, damage doesn't look to bad, but terrible vibrations driving afterwards. Smash repairer reckon it's the exhaust out of alignment... Anyway will share the results when I check in with Jordie next week unless the person is already on here

[ewok666]

Remember its not about the peak kw reading, its about area under the graph that's important. No point having a peak of 235 at redline with the rest of the rpm range 185kw.

Maybe you mean Nm....kw always increases with rpm up to a certain point, usually where torque drops off.

Have had three cars with stage 1 APR and was/am very happy. Without it the Tiguan felt a bit dull and boring to drive. To be fair, I’m comparing it to an RS3, also tuned, of course.

[Janus77]

How’s economy out of interest with the stage 1 when driven conservatively?


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[Hole46]

How’s economy out of interest with the stage 1 when driven conservatively?


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Both my Tiguans, APR and etuners, the economy was improved with conservative driving. The difference between the tunes was the APR massive initial torque and then run out of puff (goes with their philosophy of more boost is better) and the more linear power delivery of etuners.


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[TheTig]

Maybe you mean Nm....kw always increases with rpm up to a certain point, usually where torque drops off.

Have had three cars with stage 1 APR and was/am very happy. Without it the Tiguan felt a bit dull and boring to drive. To be fair, I’m comparing it to an RS3, also tuned, of course.

No he said kw

"Its basically running a MK7 GTI engine, with 7R drivetrain, meaning we will able to extract a further 40kw @ wheels with a stage 1 tune, on stock hardware. "

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Inquired about a stage 1 ECU and DSG tune with Jordie at ETuners, quoted $1600. Don't believe they've done a Tig yet the way he was speaking, however they have one booked in next week for stage 2, he was happy to share the results afterwards. Seems to think an extra 40Kw at the wheels should be achievable. Just waiting on my car to come back from the repairers and see how it is before deciding if I'll do it or not. Was sitting at a red light when someone decided to keep going and ran straight up the back, they were doing around 60Km when they hit, the car went under mostly, took out the rear black bumper, damage doesn't look to bad, but terrible vibrations driving afterwards. Smash repairer reckon it's the exhaust out of alignment... Anyway will share the results when I check in with Jordie next week unless the person is already on here

Great thanks! Underground Performance tuned a 162 TSI stage 1 ECU and TCU and achieved 177kw at the wheels. It would be interesting to see what etuners motorsport can achieve....

[Grugly]

Has anyone recorded any video of thier mk2 tuned Tig?

[tigger73]

Has anyone recorded any video of thier mk2 tuned Tig?

Really won’t sound any different until you modify the exhaust/ go to stage 2.

Stage 1 tune is just a software change.


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[ewok666]

No he said kw

"Its basically running a MK7 GTI engine, with 7R drivetrain, meaning we will able to extract a further 40kw @ wheels with a stage 1 tune, on stock hardware. "

Well, he must be confused. Cars can have a fairly flat torque curve but power is always lower at low RPMs unless you have a really odd torque curve. Usually max power is at high revs after torque is dropping off.

Power (kW) = Torque (N.m) x Speed (RPM) / 9.5488.

The above tells you that, should torque stay constant, power increases with RPM. To say that you want the same power across the rev range means you would need to keep dropping torque linear with the rev increase. Hardly desirable.