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  • Originally posted by Janus77 View Post
    Melb_Tiggy, if you don't mind me asking, how many km's did you have on the car before you had it flashed?
    Also any issues, and how many km's have you done since it was tuned?

    The IS38 and downpipe will have that Tiggy moving QUICK. Will you upgrade the clutch for that one too, guess it's mandatory for that sort of power?

    I'm still in a bit of disbelief that such huge gains are possible from only an ECU tune on the stage 1..
    Remember its not about the peak kw reading, its about area under the graph that's important. No point having a peak of 235 at redline with the rest of the rpm range 185kw.
    Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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    • Area under looks good to me (93 RON fuel is only slightly lower across the range)

      Tiguan 162tsi Sportline

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      • Would love to see this on an independent dyno on a stage 1 car.

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        Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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        • Yes, APR’s graphs and numbers should be taken with a grain of salt.


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          • Originally posted by Janus77 View Post
            Melb_Tiggy, if you don't mind me asking, how many km's did you have on the car before you had it flashed?
            Also any issues, and how many km's have you done since it was tuned?

            The IS38 and downpipe will have that Tiggy moving QUICK. Will you upgrade the clutch for that one too, guess it's mandatory for that sort of power?

            I'm still in a bit of disbelief that such huge gains are possible from only an ECU tune on the stage 1..
            I did the upgrade at around 2500km, I’m at 8300km with no issues or CEL. I have the 7 speed DSG and was looking into a TCU upgrade, perhaps after the turbo swap.
            VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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            • I was looking into a dyno at one stage, but now saving my pennies for the next mod. I have used the dragy gps timer though and posted a 5.45s 0-100/h.
              VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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              • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
                I was looking into a dyno at one stage, but now saving my pennies for the next mod. I have used the dragy gps timer though and posted a 5.45s 0-100/h.
                Inquired about a stage 1 ECU and DSG tune with Jordie at ETuners, quoted $1600. Don't believe they've done a Tig yet the way he was speaking, however they have one booked in next week for stage 2, he was happy to share the results afterwards. Seems to think an extra 40Kw at the wheels should be achievable. Just waiting on my car to come back from the repairers and see how it is before deciding if I'll do it or not. Was sitting at a red light when someone decided to keep going and ran straight up the back, they were doing around 60Km when they hit, the car went under mostly, took out the rear black bumper, damage doesn't look to bad, but terrible vibrations driving afterwards. Smash repairer reckon it's the exhaust out of alignment... Anyway will share the results when I check in with Jordie next week unless the person is already on here
                MY17 Tiguan 162 Highline | DAP | Rline | Pano Sunroof | Pure White
                Stage 2.5 - APR DP, APR Turbo inlet, Muffler delete, IS38 Turbo, APR tune

                MY18 Tiguan 162 Highline AllSpace | Sound & Vision | Sunroof | Blue Silk

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                • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                  Remember its not about the peak kw reading, its about area under the graph that's important. No point having a peak of 235 at redline with the rest of the rpm range 185kw.
                  Maybe you mean Nm....kw always increases with rpm up to a certain point, usually where torque drops off.

                  Have had three cars with stage 1 APR and was/am very happy. Without it the Tiguan felt a bit dull and boring to drive. To be fair, I’m comparing it to an RS3, also tuned, of course.

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                  • How’s economy out of interest with the stage 1 when driven conservatively?


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                    Tiguan 162tsi Sportline

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                    • Originally posted by Janus77 View Post
                      How’s economy out of interest with the stage 1 when driven conservatively?


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                      Both my Tiguans, APR and etuners, the economy was improved with conservative driving. The difference between the tunes was the APR massive initial torque and then run out of puff (goes with their philosophy of more boost is better) and the more linear power delivery of etuners.


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                      • Originally posted by ewok666 View Post
                        Maybe you mean Nm....kw always increases with rpm up to a certain point, usually where torque drops off.

                        Have had three cars with stage 1 APR and was/am very happy. Without it the Tiguan felt a bit dull and boring to drive. To be fair, I’m comparing it to an RS3, also tuned, of course.
                        No he said kw

                        "Its basically running a MK7 GTI engine, with 7R drivetrain, meaning we will able to extract a further 40kw @ wheels with a stage 1 tune, on stock hardware. "
                        MY17 Tiguan 162 Highline | DAP | Rline | Pano Sunroof | Pure White
                        Stage 2.5 - APR DP, APR Turbo inlet, Muffler delete, IS38 Turbo, APR tune

                        MY18 Tiguan 162 Highline AllSpace | Sound & Vision | Sunroof | Blue Silk

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                        • Originally posted by TheTig View Post
                          Inquired about a stage 1 ECU and DSG tune with Jordie at ETuners, quoted $1600. Don't believe they've done a Tig yet the way he was speaking, however they have one booked in next week for stage 2, he was happy to share the results afterwards. Seems to think an extra 40Kw at the wheels should be achievable. Just waiting on my car to come back from the repairers and see how it is before deciding if I'll do it or not. Was sitting at a red light when someone decided to keep going and ran straight up the back, they were doing around 60Km when they hit, the car went under mostly, took out the rear black bumper, damage doesn't look to bad, but terrible vibrations driving afterwards. Smash repairer reckon it's the exhaust out of alignment... Anyway will share the results when I check in with Jordie next week unless the person is already on here
                          Great thanks! Underground Performance tuned a 162 TSI stage 1 ECU and TCU and achieved 177kw at the wheels. It would be interesting to see what etuners motorsport can achieve....
                          VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                          • Has anyone recorded any video of thier mk2 tuned Tig?

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                            • Originally posted by Grugly View Post
                              Has anyone recorded any video of thier mk2 tuned Tig?
                              Really won’t sound any different until you modify the exhaust/ go to stage 2.

                              Stage 1 tune is just a software change.


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                              • Originally posted by TheTig View Post
                                No he said kw

                                "Its basically running a MK7 GTI engine, with 7R drivetrain, meaning we will able to extract a further 40kw @ wheels with a stage 1 tune, on stock hardware. "
                                Well, he must be confused. Cars can have a fairly flat torque curve but power is always lower at low RPMs unless you have a really odd torque curve. Usually max power is at high revs after torque is dropping off.

                                Power (kW) = Torque (N.m) x Speed (RPM) / 9.5488.

                                The above tells you that, should torque stay constant, power increases with RPM. To say that you want the same power across the rev range means you would need to keep dropping torque linear with the rev increase. Hardly desirable.

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