VCDS (VAG-COM) codes and programmable options for Golf Mk7

[Ryan_R]

I agree, but it was a fun toy way back then

[LiFers]

Anyone in Sydney interested in loaning/hiring out the VCDS equipment needed to program a MY15 Golf? It arrives in a few weeks.

Thx.

[zloybob]

hello, guys
who have MY2015 with CHPB (1.4 150HP) engine?

[nut]

Hi all.

I tried this mod on my golf 7 r the other day using the beta software and it did not work.

What did happen was that the auto close and open function when you hold the remote buttons have also ceased to work. I have tried both activating and deactivating numerous settings using both the 12.12 and 14.8 rosstech vcds software, all to no avail.

The menu functions are still there for both rain close and comfort close, but the selection of them makes no difference either.

Functions I have turned on and of via vcdd are the global comfort control, the radio comfort control open and closing, the comfort control open and closing as well as the kessy open and closing - see DV52's spreadsheet if you want to know more.

What is even more frustrating is that I currently have a reasonably technically savvy german speaker/reader in the house and he has been of no help either.

If anyone has any ideas on how to reactivate the convenience opening and closing, please let me know. At this stage I do not think the ross tech software is sufficiently mature enough on this car to activate and deactivate all these functions, so I think a visit to the dealership may be in order...

Cheers.

Background
It's fair to say that the Auto RainClose tweak has had a dubious infancy when applied to MQB platform vehicles like the mk7 Golf. My understanding from conversations on various forums is that problems were first encountered with this tweak because of the new sensor that was installed in these cars.

In previous models, VW used a "RLS" (i.e. Rain Light Sensor) to control Auto RainClose. However, in many of the mk7 models, the sensor that was introduced was the "RLFS" (Rain Light Humidity Sensor, or in German, Regen, Licht, Feuchte Sensor). Some VCDS auto-scan listings now report this new sensor as its Anglicized name, "RLHS" and of late, the RLS seems to have re-appeared in some mk7 scan reports (particularly in NAR cars).

As a result of early problems with the Auto RainClose tweak, the folk at Ross Tech (i.e. the inestimable Dana) modified the VCDS software so that it would communicate correctly with these new sensor units. The first SW version in which these changes appeared was Beta ver. 14.6.1. At the time of writing, Ross Tech has advised that their Beta software (i.e. currently Beta 14.8.1) is still the only version with the necessary smarts to talk to the sensors on mk7 vehicles. Doubtless, in the fullness of time (to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby), RT's non-beta software will be modified to accommodate these new sensors.

The material in these instructions have been sourced from numerous forums and web sites. Particular acknowledgement is given to the findings of the folk on the VCDS thread on VWvortex. In addition, recognition must also be given to those talented and amazing VCDS gurus on the Ross Tech forum for unravelling the early problems with the RLFS. Thanks to you all for your valuable contributions.

If others can add to the information in these tweak instructions, please do so. If you want to PM, I'll undertake to modify this post with any updates - or you can add your own separate post to this thread.

[DV52]

Hi all.

I tried this mod on my golf 7 r the other day using the beta software and it did not work.

What did happen was that the auto close and open function when you hold the remote buttons have also ceased to work. I have tried both activating and deactivating numerous settings using both the 12.12 and 14.8 rosstech vcds software, all to no avail.

The menu functions are still there for both rain close and comfort close, but the selection of them makes no difference either.

Functions I have turned on and of via vcdd are the global comfort control, the radio comfort control open and closing, the comfort control open and closing as well as the kessy open and closing - see DV52's spreadsheet if you want to know more.

What is even more frustrating is that I currently have a reasonably technically savvy german speaker/reader in the house and he has been of no help either.

If anyone has any ideas on how to reactivate the convenience opening and closing, please let me know. At this stage I do not think the ross tech software is sufficiently mature enough on this car to activate and deactivate all these functions, so I think a visit to the dealership may be in order...

Cheers.

Nut: Thanks for the feedback and I'm sorry to hear that you could not make the tweak work. Most of the folk that I know that have successfully implemented this tweak have NAR vehicles. There have also been reports of successful implementation on the Ross Tech forum. But I have to acknowledge that this is certainly one of the more complicated tweaks that I have seen.

I assume that you have rolled-back the three adaptation channel settings and you have re-set the Coding changes on the RLFS back to its original hex value (i.e. 00A8DD).

Your convenience opening problem is the first time that I have heard of this issue with this tweak. None of the folk that can't make the tweak work have reported this symptom. All these people have simply rolled-back the settings with no problems to any other function (as far as I know).

You mentioned the following:-
"Functions I have turned on and of via vcdd are the global comfort control, the radio comfort control open and closing, the comfort control open and closing as well as the kessy open and closing"

These don't appear to be the three adaptation channels in my instructions. I assume that you tried these changes in an attempt to enable convenience opening/closing albeit, I'm not sure that they will be of use to you. But I do agree that the wording that VW uses to describe the adaptation channels in the BMC is pretty vague.

May I suggest that you look at the settings in your Discover media screen. When you reset the "opening and closing" function to factory settings (part 3 of my instructions), the convenience opening option may have defaulted to "off". Please check the setting in the Discover media screen and make sure that it is enabled (ie. press CAR button, then press set-up panel, then press Opening and Closing, then make sure that the convenience opening panel isn't set to "off")

Please don't take this the wrong way, but failing my suggestion above, have you checked the CodingLog.txt file in the directory Ross-Tech\VCDS-Beta\Debug on your laptop to see if the original changes and the subsequent rollback changes were correctly performed? Not sure if you are aware, but this text file keeps a complete record of the changes that you make when using the Beta software (there is a similar file for the non-beta version SW).

If you want, I'm happy to look at this file for you if you post it somewhere (or PM). It may reveal a possible problem. Again, I'm not suggesting that there has been an error- but a review of this data could be useful if only to confirm that all the original changes and the subsequent changes to roll-back the settings (and the attempts to alter and then reset the adaptation channels for convenience opening/closing) were correctly made.

[nut]

Thanks DV52. I actually had a lot of the tweaks enable and then disabled the rain ones before re-enabling them again through the VCDS beta as I had noted the rain close in the coding section of the 12.12 version but had not been able to change it until your post suggested the 14.8 beta which did allow it. I followed you guidelines pretty closely and reset the functions to factory before re-enabling them also through the Discover media screen. Somewhere in all this, the ability for convenience opening has disappeared. That was when I reverted back to using the 12.12 VCDS version and started looking at other possible problems. I will look at the logs and see if I can find if I've done something I shouldn't have also.

Another interesting thing is that the VCDS cable required a firmware update and I don't know if this this has messed around with the coding. Anyway, I've sent you a pm also.

Hopefully I can get this to work again without going to VW....

Cheers

[DV52]

Nut: I didn't ask in my previous reply, but I assume that you have done a subsequent auto-scan and that no errors were reported. Please confirm

Also, just to be 100% clear. The convenience closing panel in the Discover media screen does now say something other than "off" - Yes?

[nut]

Just did another autoscan to check that i haven't missed anything - no errors reported.

I'm sure all the Discover media screen said something other than off when I was testing earlier - I think it was "all windows". I even removed and then reinstalled that menu at some stage in my quest, however when I went down just now it was off. I can assure you that was not the case previously, and will check to see if it is on something else in the morning again...

I also just got a low battery message (I must have been playing around too much, so the car is on charge now. I wonder if a lower battery charge may have something to do with the inability to convenience open and close??

Cheers.

Nut: I didn't ask in my previous reply, but I assume that you have done a subsequent auto-scan and that no errors were reported. Please confirm

Also, just to be 100% clear. The convenience closing panel in the Discover media screen does now say something other than "off" - Yes?

[aqxavier]

Label File 5G0 035 045 VCDS

Hi,

I'm using VCDS 14.8.1 and I see that there is still the label file for the 5F unit: 5G0 035 045.
Where can I download this file label or when it will be available for VCDS?

Regards,
Alexandre

[DV52]

Just did another autoscan to check that i haven't missed anything - no errors reported.

I'm sure all the Discover media screen said something other than off when I was testing earlier - I think it was "all windows". I even removed and then reinstalled that menu at some stage in my quest, however when I went down just now it was off. I can assure you that was not the case previously, and will check to see if it is on something else in the morning again...

I also just got a low battery message (I must have been playing around too much, so the car is on charge now. I wonder if a lower battery charge may have something to do with the inability to convenience open and close??

Cheers.

Nut: I just looked at your Change-Log file: The data indicates that some odd changes have occurred that haven't been restored to their original values!! You might want to start your investigation by looking at these first off.
I'll email back a "sanitised" version of your change log that hopefully will be more user-friendly, together with a few suggestions

[DV52]

Hi,

I'm using VCDS 14.8.1 and I see that there is still the label file for the 5F unit: 5G0 035 045.
Where can I download this file label or when it will be available for VCDS?

Regards,
Alexandre

Alexandre: hi. You are of course talking about the "Information Electr. (J794)" controller which currently does not have an RT Label.

As far as I know, you can't separately download this Label file, as yet- it will come as part of the substantive VCDS software from Ross Tech.

As to when it will be available, I suspect that this will be "in the fullness of time" - to quote a fictitious government official!

If you want a more definitive answer, you could join the RT forum and ask your question directly to the "Benevolent Dictator" - Uwe's handle on the forum.

[DP Vic]

Anyone having problems with the Rain Auto Close tweak?

I am able to get my windows to close but not the sunroof - that just stays open. I have checked the settings and can't find a reason as to why that part isn't functioning... Global Open/Close works fine. It's got me stumped!

[nut]

I haven't been able to get it to work, and in fact the convenience opening is not working since I tried the tweak. What car do you have, as I would be interested in seeing your adaption settings to see if mine are different to yours, in particular these settings:

(1)-Access control 2-Komfortbedienung global

(2)-Access control 2-Comfort opening

(3)-Access control 2-Comfort closing

(6)-Access control 2-Funk Komfort schliessen

(7)-Access control 2-Funk Komfort oeffnen

(19)-Access control 2-Kessy Komfort oeffnen

(20)-Access control 2-Kessy Komfort schliessen

I believe my issues started when I tried recoding the code for auto rain in the coding section of cent elec with the beat version. Prior to this, although I had menu settings for turning the rain tweak on, out did not work. As DV52 pointed out, one of the reasons may have been that the 12.12 software version of VCDS did not allow the coding change, which appeared to be one of the tweaks that needed to happen on other models of VW.

QUOTE=DP Vic;1086668]Anyone having problems with the Rain Auto Close tweak?

I am able to get my windows to close but not the sunroof - that just stays open. I have checked the settings and can't find a reason as to why that part isn't functioning... Global Open/Close works fine. It's got me stumped![/QUOTE]

DV52:
I've tried putting those unusual setting back to what I believe to be the original which incidentally coincided to what you thought, and have replied to your email. I came up with pretty much the same "original" stuff as you, but still with no joy. For others following this thread, I have also looked to see if fuses were blown but there does not appear to be a fuse for "convenience opening", and the fuse for the sunroof is obviously working as the sunroof opens and closes normally.

I wonder if it is possible to do a "hard reset" of the ECU as I am tending to think it is something in there that is corrupted.

Cheers.

[DV52]

I haven't been able to get it to work, and in fact the convenience opening is not working since I tried the tweak. What car do you have, as I would be interested in seeing your adaption settings to see if mine are different to yours, in particular these settings:

(1)-Access control 2-Komfortbedienung global

(2)-Access control 2-Comfort opening

(3)-Access control 2-Comfort closing

(6)-Access control 2-Funk Komfort schliessen

(7)-Access control 2-Funk Komfort oeffnen

(19)-Access control 2-Kessy Komfort oeffnen

(20)-Access control 2-Kessy Komfort schliessen

I believe my issues started when I tried recoding the code for auto rain in the coding section of cent elec with the beat version. Prior to this, although I had menu settings for turning the rain tweak on, out did not work. As DV52 pointed out, one of the reasons may have been that the 12.12 software version of VCDS did not allow the coding change, which appeared to be one of the tweaks that needed to happen on other models of VW.


DV52:
I've tried putting those unusual setting back to what I believe to be the original which incidentally coincided to what you thought, and have replied to your email. I came up with pretty much the same "original" stuff as you, but still with no joy. For others following this thread, I have also looked to see if fuses were blown but there does not appear to be a fuse for "convenience opening", and the fuse for the sunroof is obviously working as the sunroof opens and closes normally.

I wonder if it is possible to do a "hard reset" of the ECU as I am tending to think it is something in there that is corrupted.

Cheers.

Nut: As you are already aware, those adaptation channels that you listed above are not part of the Auto RainClosing tweak. I'm not sure that an ECU reset is the answer. There really is only a very, very low probability that the RT software has caused a glitch in another part of the car. I say this simply because no-one else has reported your problem and I'm aware of many who have used the beta software for this tweak. Whilst not all of these folk have been successful in getting Auto RainClose to work, none have indicated that the convenience close function has been disabled when they have reverted back to the original settings.

Another suggestion is to make an Adaptation map of the BCM and compare it with some one else's map. I've put mine up on the net, but to be 100% sure that there are no spurious values hiding somewhere,you really need a map from the same model car. I'm not sure how proficient you are with excel, but it's relatively easy with a spreadsheet (once you have the data).

I've done a compare exercise between the BCM on my 103TSI and a TDI (which belongs to TDIJeff) and there are many similarities in "Stored values", but there are also many differences. So you really need another Mk7 R as a reference. I'm happy to do a comparison sheet for you if you send me the data.

Please be aware though that the adaptation map for the BCM on a mk7 is quite large (mine has about 1,700 lines). So make sure that the battery is OK when you make the map, or keep the car running (and don't stop the process once you start it).

[nut]

Yeah, I know. I guess I'm clutching at straws a little.

Thats' why I'm hoping that those channels may have been different to mine, and it may allow me to reprogram them. I did closely follow the instructions for the rain tweak, which is why I was so surprised that the auto close function is not working, particularly when there are no fault codes indicating something unto wards....

I'll look into a BCM map in the next few days and see if I can get another r owner involved. I agree that it is probably not the RT software, but something else I'm missing. Unfortunately for me the car is as standard as I can make it now (at least that is what I think) in terms of the tweaks being discussed here....

Cheers

Nut: As you are already aware, those adaptation channels that you listed above are not part of the Auto RainClosing tweak. I'm not sure that an ECU reset is the answer. There really is only a very, very low probability that the RT software has caused a glitch in another part of the car. I say this simply because no-one else has reported your problem and I'm aware of many who have used the beta software for this tweak. Whilst not all of these folk have been successful in getting Auto RainClose to work, none have indicated that the convenience close function has been disabled when they have reverted back to the original settings.

Another suggestion is to make an Adaptation map of the BCM and compare it with some one else's map. I've put mine up on the net, but to be 100% sure that there are no spurious values hiding somewhere,you really need a map from the same model car. I'm not sure how proficient you are with excel, but it's relatively easy with a spreadsheet (once you have the data).

I've done a compare exercise between the BCM on my 103TSI and a TDI (which belongs to TDIJeff) and there are many similarities in "Stored values", but there are also many differences. So you really need another Mk7 R as a reference. I'm happy to do a comparison sheet for you if you send me the data.

Please be aware though that the adaptation map for the BCM on a mk7 is quite large (mine has about 1,700 lines). So make sure that the battery is OK when you make the map, or keep the car running (and don't stop the process once you start it).