golf R

[Sharkie]

Edit.... Actually, I've just noticed that Audi now have price lists back on their site. The base model Audi S3 3rd manual is $78,718 drive away in NSW. So yeah, I don't think that potential Golf R customers are all of a sudden going to be heading over to the Audi dealership enmass any time soon

I have heard of people (2 friends in the last 6 months) that have driven away a S3 Sportback (5dr) with some inclusions for around $65K ..... Audi is MUCH more negotiable than VW .... RRP is an indication only ......

So when the R hits anywhere near that price, its an S3 for me. It is a much more classy car with the same performance.

[Corey_R]

Heh wow... the dealers must be desperate to make numbers if they're selling S3's at $14k below the advertised driveaway prices plus adding in some inclusions. If that really is something which the average person could achieve, then I could understand it then.

[gareth_oau]

Motor's latest magazine is suggesting an rrp of $57k for the R, in 3 door manual

[graeme86]

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...r-1438581.html

Just posted in Germany:

36.400 Euro for Golf R and 33.475 Euro for Scirocco R plus 1.875 Euro for DSG

[Corey_R]

Yeah - the configurator has been up for a while in germany, with the prices etc. But it doesn't give much hint as to what the car will actually be when it ends up here.

[Lima]

I personally prefer the Golf over the S3. With a Sunroof in the S3, I have troubles setting in the back of an S3. I'm only 5'10". Lean forward a bit and my head hits the 'bump' in the roof from the sunroof cavity. I'm the shortest in my group of friends and family etc, so this just won't do.
There are other issues I have with Audi. Charging so much for an arm rest for example, when it's in the Golf as standard. Flat bottom steering wheels, extra. I mean come on.. this is a $69k hatchback (base model RRP, +taxes and onroads etc) and you're paying for things which come standard on a $39k Golf GTI. It's just not right

I agree, Audi options prices are expensive, but...

Edit.... Actually, I've just noticed that Audi now have price lists back on their site. The base model Audi S3 3rd manual is $78,718 drive away in NSW. So yeah, I don't think that potential Golf R customers are all of a sudden going to be heading over to the Audi dealership enmass any time soon

Except I paid low 70s driveaway for my S3. To put that into perspective the options I ticked (Nav etc) added up to more than $10K. So, in theory a vanilla S3 could be yours, driveaway, for low 60s. I did buy my car from a friend who was kind enough to do me a few favours, but there are plenty of other people who have bought S3s recently with 5 figure discounts off the RRP driveaway price.

I'm not so sure anyone will be getting 10K+ off a Golf R any time soon. Your point is still valid, but the real world price differential may not be as great as it seems on paper.

[Lima]

According to the latest motor magazine, the R will come with Haldex Gen4, which transfers power to the rear before it senses slip in the front, and can also send 100% to the rear.

all it needs is front suspension that is not tuned to understeer, and a swithc you can send 100% to the rear by choice, and youve got yourself a tail happy rear drive oversteerer!!

Same system as the facelifted S3s.

In stock trim I don't think it can/will actually send 100% to the rear (ie. 50% to each rear wheel). From memory 5% will stay at the front under the type of conditions you are hinting at.

However, if only one wheel has grip, and the other three have slip, then 100% can momentarily be sent to a single wheel until grip is resumed.

There's a bunch of stuff about it on the Haldex website and some good info on ozAudi too.

[Sharkie]

Golf R Delivery Dates

Saw a note at my VW dealer today that ........

confirmed release of the R into Australia to be May 2010. 1st deliveries to be end May / beginning of June. Base specs to be similar to R32 ... ie B-Xenons leather etc .....

If you have ordered 1 already, your dealer will be talking to you in February to confirm your build & options as this is when they will have to order the car in from Germany .....

Very Happy now ....

[aeon]

Nice, shame they're way out of my price range...

[Corey_R]

Saw a note at my VW dealer today that ........

confirmed release of the R into Australia to be May 2010. 1st deliveries to be end May / beginning of June. Base specs to be similar to R32 ... ie B-Xenons leather etc .....

If you have ordered 1 already, your dealer will be talking to you in February to confirm your build & options as this is when they will have to order the car in from Germany .....

Very Happy now ....

Thanks for that update. I'm happy with that. If 1st deliveries happen at that time, I can go test drive and inspect one to make sure I'm 100% happy, and then place my order, and hopefully have it in time for Christmas next year

[Corey_R]

Australian version is 188 Kw, not 199 Kw.

That's very interesting. Do you have a particular source for that information?

The reason I ask is that sources like Car Sales and Ausmotive has indicated that ours is 199Kw too. The Audi S3 in Australia has an 'older revision' of the motor which has 188kw, but the TT-S in Australia has the 'new revision' motor producing 199kw. Since the new revision which is going into the Golf R in every other country is already being used in Australia, so there are no issues with our fuel quality etc, why would they build a whole new bunch of the old revision just for the Australian Golf R?

[jatkins]

Saw a note at my VW dealer today that ........

confirmed release of the R into Australia to be May 2010. 1st deliveries to be end May / beginning of June. Base specs to be similar to R32 ... ie B-Xenons leather etc .....

If you have ordered 1 already, your dealer will be talking to you in February to confirm your build & options as this is when they will have to order the car in from Germany .....

Very Happy now ....

see my dealer wasnt completely full of cr*p! though calling march is a little premature...maybe he got his wires crossed about speccing up the car and ordering it from germany...

thanks for the deets sharkie

[FJ Steve]

Will it be the Golf R, or the Scirocco R?

[jatkins]

Will it be the Golf R, or the Scirocco R?

this is referring to the Golf R, the scirocco R has not been announced for australian shores yet, at least i dont think it has...

[Sharkie]

1 piece of paper I saw had Golf R details on it and its 188kw aparently .... ... nothing an ECU upgrade can't fix though ....... 188kw S3 and 199kw TTS chipped = both 240kw .....

The other piece had a timeline of models to be introduced and it had the new Polo in April and Golf R & GTD in May .... no Scirrocco on it I'm afraid ....