Why you need to use 504/507 oils in FSI/TSI/TDI engines!

[Throbbinhood]

Legends, thanks guys.

[blaast]

Supercheap have 5L Castrol Edge 5w30 VW 504/507 spec for $63...any good, or better to spend more on something like the Liqui Moly?
Castrol Edge Diesel DPF Engine Oil - 5W-30, 5 Litre - Supercheap Auto

What are your thoughts on Sakura oil filters?

For a 2009 Caravelle, 2.5 TDi 96kW.

[Guest001]

Supercheap have 5L Castrol Edge 5w30 VW 504/507 spec for $63...any good, or better to spend more on something like the Liqui Moly?
Castrol Edge Diesel DPF Engine Oil - 5W-30, 5 Litre - Supercheap Auto

What are your thoughts on Sakura oil filters?

For a 2009 Caravelle, 2.5 TDi 96kW.

That is the good approved stuff and is as good as you need and meets the same specs as the others you mention

Dont know about the filters

[Umai Naa!!]

The oil is fine, but the filter is garbage. The O-ring is not thick enough and will cause the cap on the oil filter housing to leak. Plus, more often than not, the filter will probably collapse over time.

Try and avoid brands like Ryco, Wesfil and Sakura on these. They're crap.

A genuine filter for these - 071115562C is only $25. Alternatively, OEM brands like Hengst, Mahle, and MANN are decent too, and are a little cheaper.

[minke]

I was using the 5w-30 Castrol 507 dealer approved oil (change twice a year for 3.5 years) and found that it would drink the oil. Around 1L per 2500-3000km. I also found my Renault ClioSport would drink Castrol oil whereas when I ran Elf it didn't consume any (10,000km changes)

I recently (one change 5,600km) switched to Liqui Moly Top Tech 4200 and it has used only100mL in 5,000km

Wonder if this has been the experience for others?

[Transporter]

I was using the 5w-30 Castrol 507 dealer approved oil (change twice a year for 3.5 years) and found that it would drink the oil. Around 1L per 2500-3000km. I also found my Renault ClioSport would drink Castrol oil whereas when I ran Elf it didn't consume any (10,000km changes)

I recently (one change 5,600km) switched to Liqui Moly Top Tech 4200 and it has used only100mL in 5,000km

Wonder if this has been the experience for others?

It varies from model to model.
I also have great experiences with Elf/Total oils.

[blaast]

Thanks for that advice.
I bought a couple of Sakura filters a year ago and used one at the time and have just changed the oil using another.
When I took the filter out I noticed that the 'fins' were twisted, but was told by someone that this is normal due to the pressure exerted by the oil.
I was skeptical about this, and it seems l should have been moreso!

[donweather]

TDI is 4200 only.

Petrol engines can run 4100, or 4200.

4100 Liquid Moly appears to only be in 5W-40? This is fine for Skoda Octavia RS 2012 TSI Manual and won't void warranty even though it's not VW 504/507?

TOP TEC 4100 | 5W-40 – LIQUI-MOLY Australia

[Guest001]

You can run 502/505 in a petrol engine yes Using a non approved oil of the correct spec may not void your warranty but may upset VW if you have an engine claim.

[Umai Naa!!]

I don't have 100% confirmation from VW Aus, but I believe the 502/505-spec 5W-40 oils are ok in the petrol engines.

Liqui Moly Toptec 4100 is 502/505-approved, as is Penrite HPR-5.

[Johnbu]

Why you need to use 504/507 oils in FSI/TSI/TDI engines!

I don't have 100% confirmation from VW Aus, but I believe the 502/505-spec 5W-40 oils are ok in the petrol engines.

Liqui Moly Toptec 4100 is 502/505-approved, as is Penrite HPR-5.

Pretty sure you're correct.

However the 502/505 isn't suitable for extended oil change intervals i.e. 25,000km. Not that you'd want to leave your 504/507 oil in there for that long anyway as allowed by VW in some countries.

[Guest001]

Pretty sure you're correct.

However the 502/505 isn't suitable for extended oil change intervals i.e. 25,000km. Not that you'd want to leave your 504/507 oil in there for that long anyway as allowed by VW in some countries.

As we have 12 month or 15,000k (whichever is first) oil changes it wouldnt be a problem here

Our Polo TSI manual specifies 502/505 or higher I just run them both on the 504/507 to save having two types hanging around.

[Umai Naa!!]

Correct. 504/507 is meant to be good for 30K drain intervals, although I wouldn't tempt fate...

[Johnbu]

I'd rather use 502/505 and change every 15k than 504/507 every 30k.

I use 502/505 in 5w40 due to oil consumption issues using 5W30 in my MkV GTI.

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[Umai Naa!!]

In a petrol engine, that's fine.

But not in a diesel, where 504/507 is a must.