Why you need to use 504/507 oils in FSI/TSI/TDI engines!

[AnDyStYLe]

Only me checking in again...

Thought it was worth a post and a food for thought.

I ended up purchasing Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 from GL Lubricants (as PerformanceLub didn't have any in stock). I bought 6x 1L bottles of this.

Funny enough, 4x 1L came from a batch that was made in EU-Finland, and the other 2x 1L was from a batch made in EU-France.

I'm pretty happy with the purchase and will definitely purchase again from these guys!

Moral of my story is that I'm sure that either one (Finland and France) are pretty much same sht as the other. Also that although GL Lubricant import from USA, you'll still get EU product.

Cheers,

Andy

[Johnbu]

I needed a top up for my MkV GTI and fortunately repco had Nylon euro 504/507 oil on sale $50 for 5L.

So I bought 4 bottles, should last me 2 future oil changes (inc top up).

Great price for VW approved oil and an Aussie company too..

Hopefully its one of the 'better' 504/507 oils, as it's approved I'm sure it's not a bad oil.

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[brad]

If you mean Nulon (not Nylon) then I think you'll find it isn't VW Approved (they never paid the fee to have it tested & a certificate of conformance issued). They use the term "meets or exceeds the standard" (something like that).

[Johnbu]

Yeah Nulon, damn auto correct!

They have a few 5w30s but this one is VW approved.

Full Synthetic 5W-30 EURO Engine Oil- Nulon Australia

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[Diesel_vert]

brad is correct.

To date, Nulon Euro 5W-30 has not been certified by Volkswagen, nor does their product appear on Volkswagen's list of approved lubricants.

Having said that, according to Nulon, they state that Euro 5W-30 should meet and exceed the specifications of VW oil standard 504.00/507.00, that Nulon recommends its use for applications which call for that spec, and that it is suitable for use in Volkswagens.

[Johnbu]

OK fair enough, a bit sneaky Nulon! lol

I suppose they didn't want to pay for the certification.

You see 504/507 on the bottle and assume it's certified.

Oh well, as long as it really does exceed VW specs then it's good enough for me. Nulon have excellent oils and I'm happy to support an Aussie compaby .

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[brad]

Yeah Nulon, damn auto correct!

They have a few 5w30s but this one is VW approved.

Full Synthetic 5W-30 EURO Engine Oil- Nulon Australia

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Doesn't say "Äpproved". It says "recommended for & exceeds"

[Johnbu]

Yeah you're right..sneaky ain't it?

Hopefully still a good oil- I have 3.5 bottles left! lol

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[zei20t]

I used to use nulon oils when they first started manufacturing oil. never had issues with my SR20s with it in it, then again, that's an old-tech engine compared to the CCZ I have now.

found out the hard way the difference between 'approved' and 'recommended' with the FIAT.

[OilBurna]

How about Valvoline?


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[Diesel_vert]

How about Valvoline?

Lubricant manufacturers carry numerous products in their line-up, which have varying levels of OE approvals. Some products have many, while other products may have none.

Valvoline, like many companies, have a number of products that are approved to various VW oil standards.

As far as the topic of this thread is concerned, Valvoline SynPower XL-III 5W-30 should be approved to VW oil standard 504.00/507.00, as it appears on Volkswagen's list of approved lubricants.

[drjekl]

You're definitely on the right track.
Using the highest quality specs oil for your engine is important as well as changing the oil on time. For many 15,000km or every 12 months will prove too long, but it's usually late when they discover that they should've change the oil more often.

I use only the brands that are made of Group4 base oils (or mostly the Group4 to be precise and not to upset some).

What is the ideal scenario in terms of oil change (10k kays or every 12 months?) for the 2.0 TDI (passat 2011-14)

Also is the 2.0TDI engine known to drink a bit of oil occasionally?

My other cars is a bmw 335i TT 6 cyl petrol and the bmw guideline is something crazy like 20k kays between oil changes for a motor which is known to have high oil temps (they also drink 1L or so every 5-10k kays) and most enthusiasts with tuned engines change oil every 5k kays...

[gabbaking]

Planning of getting my car Golf TDI serviced by Seb at Euro revolution who uses Fuchs oils. By the looks of Fushs website, it seems like the most approriate oil would be GT1 Pro 5w30 oil which doesnt get a good rep over tdiclub forums being semi synthetic oil. I was thinking of buying Liqui Moly Top Tec 5W-40 myself and supply when it gets service. Whats people opinion on it?

[Umai Naa!!]

TDIs need a 504/507-spec oil, which Fuchs does have an approval for.

No doubt Seb has this on tap.

[Umai Naa!!]

TITAN GT1 LONGLIFE III SAE 5W-30 - Fuchs.