Why you need to use 504/507 oils in FSI/TSI/TDI engines!

[Corey_R]

Oil itself aside...

Are there any standout oil filters for the VW engine? (118TSi)

Please don't ask the same question in multiple places, or start threads to ask the same thing you've already asked in an existing thread on the topic. It just makes work for moderators and means people waste time answering things which were already answered...

... and when one of those people who answered is also a moderator who then merges your thread, well then, that's just twice the time wasted now isn't it

[Corey_R]

I merged your thread here reddc5r. The Golf R ain't any different to any other Golf, or VAG for that matter, in its oil requirements.

[Maverick]

the R uses mineral oil until its first service. My dealer was kind enough to offer me around 700mL to carry around for topping-up.

Since when? Everything points to them using synthetic for the factory fill across the range, the R isn't some special hand built machine and comes off the same line as the other cars with engines built to the same tolerances.

[jords86]

Actually everything points to them coming prefilled with Castrol Syn Longlife.

Volkswagen

Copied from above link

'Majority of all new VW cars are first-filled with Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow Longlife III'

[dave_r]

The approved list says the Liqui Moly TOP TEC 4200 is 50400/50700

But the link says differently?

http://www.liqui-moly.com.au/products/motor-oil/

Audi/VW group 500.00 / 501.01 / 502.00 / 505.00 / 505.01 / 503.00 / 503.01 / 506.00 / 506.01

What am I missing?

[Corey_R]

The line just before that....

For some reason they have VAG 504/507 separated from the rest...

TOP TEC 4200 | 5W-30

SPECIFICATIONS:
ACEA A3-04 / B4-04 / C3-04

APPROVALS:
MB-Approval 229.51, BMW Longlife-04, VW 504.00 / 507.00 also meets MB 229.31, Audi/VW group 500.00 / 501.01 / 502.00 / 505.00 / 505.01 / 503.00 / 503.01 / 506.00 / 506.01 (except TDI
Engines R5 and V10 before MY 06/2006), BMW Longlife-01FE, Renault ACEA C3-04

1L Part No: 2748
5L Part No: 2749

[dave_r]

LOL that'll teach me for trying to multitask while doing a phone meeting....

[Corey_R]

For what it's worth dave_r, that Liqui Moly oil is what I had Derek at European Autotech put in my R when I had the Stage 2+ upgrade done at ~3k. I decided on that after reading some stuff here and talking to peeps such as Transporter, and I was going to buy it from Motoractive and give it to Derek when I asked him if that would be ok, and he said "No... cause I already stock it here and have been using it for a while". lol... so I just got it from him instead. I also grabbed another 5L container from Derek so that I could do another change later on...

(plus, I have a filter and sump plug which I got from the spares desk at my dealer...)

[dave_r]

Yeah sounds good. How many litres does it take, manual says go to VW hehe.

[Transporter]

4.6L with the filter. Bit less without. Always replace the filter when you change the oil (it's cheap).

[dave_r]

4.6L with the filter. Bit less without. Always replace the filter when you change the oil (it's cheap).

No arguments there, just wasnt sure if I needed more than the 5l pack

[dave_r]

Job done yesterday, actually a mate did the hard work. Interesting filter setup, last time I did one was on a jap car 10yrs ago hehe. I'm sure others already know but if you're doing it, save yourself the pain and buy the proper filter drain tool. Great idea, zero mess.

Don't keep my cars that long and I'm sure it probably is ok going to 15k but for the sake of ~$100 why not. Plus the car just feels nicer knowing the abused and blackened oil was replaced with nice new stuff hehe. Easy 10kw for sure!

[maxim]

Have read all through this thread and just have one question for the experts (Transporter, Cogdoc?), should I do an oil & filter change before the first 15000k service? I need this car (B7 Passat TDI) to do at least 150000k's and want to maximise it's life. Don't care if it costs me more to do extra oil services (I'll do them myself), rather do that than not. I just can't get my head around not changing the original oil until 15000k's! But if you guys reckon it's fine, then I'll leave it (maybe ). Thanks for any advice.

[hooba]

According to VW who designed and engineered your car, no, not unless your driving conditions are considered harsh as defined in your car's manual.

[george023]

GTI MY10. What type of oil?

Hi all,

Pretty new to this as well as new to Golfs. Just wondering what type of oil is correct for my GTI Mk6, 2010. VW told me a fully synthetic Castrol 5W-30 which is specifically for VW and it is advised to get it at a dealer but I can't help thinking this is just to try and make an extra buck. They quoted me 1 litre for $29.04. Grateful for any input, I'm in Sydney.