Golf R Observations and Questions

[Corey_R]

One thing I've noticed in the R.... with the DSG gearbox, if you manually go down a gear with the brakes on - it snaps down a gear almost instantly. If you manually go down a gear while accelerating, it takes like half a second longer to think about it. If you mash the fast pedal all the way to the switch to make it change down a gear - it's almost instant.

yeah - it's based on the loading... you will (or should) quickly become accustomed to the ins and outs of the box

And it's that way on the MY12's too.

[Candyman]

yeah - it's based on the loading... you will (or should) quickly become accustomed to the ins and outs of the box

And it's that way on the MY12's too.

Reality (at least with ours on the 1200 km yesterday) says otherwise

[Corey_R]

I've driven MY12 as well, and it was no different. Not surprising, since it's the same gearbox and software...

[Ryan_R]

I've noticed it a few times, might be a clutch protection thing (i.e. you could keep the clutch in while braking, but not accelerating). Plus in auto mode it preselects a gear in advance, whereas in menual mode it can't always predict which way you'll shift. Quickest way to get a move on though is to use the kickdown switch, or you could engage sport mode (essentially the same result.)

[Candyman]

I've driven MY12 as well, and it was no different. Not surprising, since it's the same gearbox and software...

As I said, not had the issue. Must be driving style. Shifts fast irrespective of loading

Referring to manual mode as mentioned originally (although same in D)

I drove three My11's and D mode was crap, like our GTI. Very different to ours which in D mode is in between what D and S was on our GTI

Glad I have a good one then.

[Corey_R]

I've noticed it a few times, might be a clutch protection thing

No, it's not about protecting the clutch etc (well, not specifically I don't believe), as the comment originally made is that when coasting and changing down (something you may do whilst rolling up a hill etc) is when you get about a 500 to 800ms disengagement of the clutches. If you have the accelerator pedal pushed down to provide enough load, you can the "instantenous" change.

It's more about the rev matching between the gears. If you have load there, then it can match very quickly. If you have no load because you're coasting, then it needs to do a manual "double de-clutch and blip" type thing.

It's discussed in some detail in one of the VW Service Training "Self-study programme" manuals, probably #308 on the DSG 02E. But that's off the top of my head - I don't have them on me atm.


Either way - it's normal operation of the gearbox.
The way you're operating the car determines whether it occurs or not, so if you don't want it to occur, adjust your driving style.

[SilvrFoxX]

My observation for the day, accelerating in an enclosed carpark will set off car alarms

[Corey_R]

Hehehe... yeah! That's always fun to do

[SilvrFoxX]

Not sure if this is an observation, however the parking sensors have me a tad baffled, do they turn on and off by themselves.. I know I turn them off when I am in my garage as they drive me nuts and I know where the touch points are.. but not sure when they activate

[Ryan_R]

You both have modified exhausts I presume?


My manager's brother just ordered a Golf R and now has a 12-month wait to look forward to. I don't know how you guys do it

[SilvrFoxX]

You both have modified exhausts I presume?


My manager's brother just ordered a Golf R and now has a 12-month wait to look forward to. I don't know how you guys do it

Nope, mine is stock as a rock.. but if you accelerate sharply the exhaust is dramatic.

Yes, I waited 9 months for my baby, the first 4-5 were OK the rest blows chunks cause you can do nothing about it. The hardest bit is thinking about throwing in the towel and buying something else, but it wont be the same. The R although a Golf has something about it which makes it worth it in the end.

[Corey_R]

Not sure if this is an observation, however the parking sensors have me a tad baffled, do they turn on and off by themselves.. I know I turn them off when I am in my garage as they drive me nuts and I know where the touch points are.. but not sure when they activate

They activate as soon as you put the car into reverse.
Otherwise, if you need to use them to drive forward into a spot, you have to press the button to activate them manually.

They will turn off automatically after you drive over 15km/h (or some set speed, can't specifically remember if it's 15 or 25 etc).

You both have modified exhausts I presume?

I have a DP, but the cat-back is stock. I'm sure SilvrFoxX is still stock though. It's only half sound though. The other half is how porky the R is but how fast it can start moving... makes the concrete floor of the multi-deck car parks "bounce" quite a lot. (disturbingly noticeable if you're standing or sitting outside of the car as someone else drives it by).

My manager's brother just ordered a Golf R and now has a 12-month wait to look forward to. I don't know how you guys do it

Yeah, six months was hard enough. 12 months... damn. But so far I don't know anyone who has actually waited that long... most of the guys I recall being told that, it has come in 8 to 9 months.

You quickly forget about the wait once you have them though

[Ryan_R]

I would've thought that by the time he gets it we'll be hearing a little bit more about the Mk7.


Nice to know the R has good get up and go, I thought it might have a bit of turbo lag (I guess that's a lot less noticeable in the lower gears though).

[SilvrFoxX]

My R has just ticked over 6000 kays and the car is just so much smoother, the gearbox and engine. It is much easier to drive in traffic and you can now feather the turbo in and out much easier.

I figure it will continue to morph over the next 10,000 kays, post the 1st service i will decide if it needs a tune..

[DDTW]

i will decide if it needs a tune..

Yes you do =) Every R needs a tune and catback. It's how the R should've been from the factory.