Golf R Specifications and Prices

[RhysQ]

I didn't move your thread to hide it. First there is a thread redirection which is visible for everyone to see. Secondly, this is the Golf R thread, everyone who's driving it are putting their opinions there. As I said to you in the private message, if everyone started a thread for every car they test drove, then this place would quickly become a useless resource of thousands of threads.

Yeah thats fair enough mate, understand.
Cheers,
Rhys

[G-rig]

Re: Golf R Specifications and Prices

Then your chipped R will have 240kw and 435NM and pull so hard the Polo and Golf GTI owners will be left having a licence

Fixed it for you.

[Corey_R]

lol thanks G-rig.

Yeah - the Golf R has a K04 turbo. So the torque doesn't come in as low as it does in either the Polo GTI or Golf GTI (except Pirelli) which have the K03. But it also means that they can be tuned higher. Just depends what you want to do with it I guess.
I'm not saying that the standard R is not a great car, because many will be happy with the power - as you can see from other comments of people in this thread who have test driven it and have not come from a chipped car... but anyone coming from a chipped car will need to at least chip the R for it to give them that "rush"

[dave_r]

I'm not saying that the standard R is not a great car, because many will be happy with the power - as you can see from other comments of people in this thread who have test driven it and have not come from a chipped car... but anyone coming from a chipped car will need to at least chip the R for it to give them that "rush"

Interesting, as I mentioned coming from an XR6T which has no shortage of power nor is it laggy with the 4L and all but I didn't feel the R was laggy at all. How were you guys driving it? For the most part I had it in S and didn't have an issue at all. I agree that an APR tune would make it even better but if left stock, the car was a more than adequate performer. I was after an all round car and I think the R delivers that in spades.

On a side not, the guys made the comment that they felt the car I drove felt much better than it did the day before. Their words were at first the car was very doughy, so not sure how much these things improve with run in or some hard driving.

[Ideo]

Also, the Golf R (and the S3) have AWD so the power delivery feels very different.

Also the added weight etc of AWD has a difference.

Saying that a modded car is faster and cheaper is all well and good, but where does it end - a 10k bike will show most cars off every single time. A rusty old VN with a LS1 will be faster than a new Astra etc etc but compare stock for stock, because most people don't modify their cars, and the R seems very good value.

[RhysQ]

as you can see from other comments of people in this thread who have test driven it and have not come from a chipped car... but anyone coming from a chipped car will need to at least chip the R for it to give them that "rush"

yeah thats what it really lacked as well. i love that turbo rush an awesome torque of my chipped polo (other mods as well) so yeah i was just waiting for that same rush. the R certainly did seem more composed though which i fully agree with. it takes some skill to perfectly launch a chipped polo with traction control off. effortless acellaration in the R, chipped will be a different story though.

the potential for mods with the R is no doubt great as you said, having that already good power figure and the revised 4-motion. I know my opinion will be much different when i drive a chipped one. Same for the Golf GTI I suppose, was disappointed with it until I drove a chipped one.

[Corey_R]

Interesting, as I mentioned coming from an XR6T which has no shortage of power nor is it laggy with the 4L and all but I didn't feel the R was laggy at all. How were you guys driving it? For the most part I had it in S and didn't have an issue at all.

The Golf R has 330NM @ 2400 to 5200rpm. So if you were in S most of the time, then you won't have noticed the lag! hehe. But S holds the revs far too high to use it day to day.
The Golf GTI has 280NM @ 1700 to 5200rpm - so it has less "lag".

A chipped Polo GTI has 153kw & 328NM. So in comparison, the Golf R has only 25kw and 2NM more, yet weighs weighs 286kg more.
A chipped Golf GTI has 189kw & 402NM. So in comparison, the Golf R has 1kw & 72NM less, and yet weighs 116kg more.

The thing is - the weight. Now that we finally have an Australian spec brochure on the R comparing it to the GTI on equal levels - the Golf R is ONLY 116kg heavier than the equivalent Golf GTI. When you then consider that with that 116kg you get the AWD and the ability to put 240kw and 435NM down to the road, it'll be a great car....

I don't know how many people here have also driven an R32, but the R is really so much more balanced that it was. It turns and corners far more like a GTI than an R32.

[dave_r]

The Golf R has 330NM @ 2400 to 5200rpm. So if you were in S most of the time, then you won't have noticed the lag! hehe. But S holds the revs far too high to use it day to day.

Ah but that is how I will be driving it when I want to hoon (most of the time). When I want to relax, it will be in D and this lag thing won't be an issue as I'm just cruising. Thus illustrating my point about a great all rounder!

I don't know how many people here have also driven an R32, but the R is really so much more balanced that it was. It turns and corners far more like a GTI than an R32.

I drove the Mk6 GTI and a MK5 R32 back to back in Jan this year when placing my R order. I noted then that I thought the GTI was a much better drive than the R32 was. The R32 was a good car but you could feel the front end weight whenever you turned in, was just too heavy. IMO the V6 was very seductive and almost enough to fool me into a purchase and I suspect many others. I agree with you completely, the R is an enhancement on the already good GTI. As we stated many times in the speculation thread, if you could only afford a GTI then no harm done as it is great value. But if you can stretch that little bit more, then R hands down! Chipped or not.

[Sharkie]

Agree with Rhys, a stock R feels flat in comparison to a chipped turbo-petrol VW anything ...... Bear in mind that the FWD chipped turbo VWs all have serious problems putting the power down, they all feel quicker than what they actually are .....

The R (stock) would still have them 0-100 and over the quarter, it just doesn't feel it. In my case however I drove there and back in a AWD 200+kw VW with similar weight and the R just won't cut it stock .... imagine the embarrasment of being beaten by SUV ..... chipped R would be good though, but to be honest not by very much.

You'd need to go Stg 3 for it to be seriously quick ....

Pointless for me now though, I can get into a 135i for $75K driveaway (and even less for a demo) so a $73K Golf now is no option for me.

[Corey_R]

But Sharkie, you could also get a discount on your $73K Golf R

[Sharkie]

But Sharkie, you could also get a discount on your $73K Golf R

No, no discount at all, and they claim that VW is not intending to bring corporate discount out on it for 18months+ .... $73K with no movement it is ....

On the Tiguans corporate discount was unavailable for 12 months after launch, so thats not necessarily a bogus claim. It all comes down to supply and demand. If demand is high, oppertunities for discount is low .... and we all know VW is not in the car business to make us all happy, they are in it to make money.

[Guest1306]

Golf R Specifications and Prices

We are here to sell cars! Plain and simple. WA based buyers should contact me for pricing.

[Corey_R]

No, no discount at all, and they claim that VW is not intending to bring corporate discount out on it for 18months+ .... $73K with no movement it is ....

On the Tiguans corporate discount was unavailable for 12 months after launch, so thats not necessarily a bogus claim. It all comes down to supply and demand. If demand is high, oppertunities for discount is low .... and we all know VW is not in the car business to make us all happy, they are in it to make money.

I have no doubt there are no discounts on the cars in stock now, and the pre-allocations etc, but on factory orders, there are discounts for those who want them.
Sure, since the car has come in way cheaper than most people expected, there may not be the 15% that some people were able to manage with the GTI, but there are still discounts...

[Glennb]

Given it's nudging $70K would a 135i be in the picture?

It's ugly and i need a 4 door, so no.
BUT... the 123d Sports Hatch is an option. Auto with M-Sports pack (leather, 18" 's, etc), Xenons, Nav and Audio upgrade, comes to $70k OTR,
Compared to my R spec:
5 Door DSG
ACC
Leather
Sat Nav & Dynaudio upgrade
$70k OTR.

I'll reserve judgement till i drive it, but unlike some of the guys here, i'm not after outright speed, but want something that i enjoy driving, so if i don't have the fastest hatch on the road, it doesn't actually bother me. And besides, i have a motorbike for that anyway
And turbo lag bugs me!

[Corey_R]

Oh, one thing I noticed on my test drive... I got stuck in some traffic... eek! Anyway, the DSG seemed soooo smoooooth. I've owned the 6sp DSG before, but whatever upgrades VW has done in the Golf R's 6sp DSG, it really seems to have made a nice difference. I can honestly say that I've never been in any "auto" car with smoother gear changes - yet none of them could compete when it would come to sporty quick runs. So yes - anyone who's tried a DSG in the past and hasn't liked it, give it another quick go when you test drive the R.

I also had a quick drive of the Golf R in manual. It feels like it has shorter throw of both the gear lever AND the clutch pedal compared to my Polo GTI. It sounded quite different to the DSG R, not only with gear changes, but even the engine note sounded different (maybe it's just cause it had such low KM's... I may have been the first test driver... the sales guy hadn't been in either car yet!).