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  • Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
    Are you typically turning from a stop (1st gear) or while moving (2nd? 3rd?)
    What gears follow? (i.e. 2 > 3 > 4 > 3 > 4)
    What do you expect? (i.e. 2 > 3......... > 4)

    One option is of course to become friends with Manual (tiptronic) mode. Another is Guy Harding's DSG tune.
    It happens either from stop (i.e. 1st) or already moving (2nd onwards). I've observed what the MFD says when it happens and I feel like it's not telling me the full story. It might say 5th but the revs and varying levels of resistance suggest that it is shifting around trying to find the right gear. Not entirely sure what to expect except for the car to go downhill smoothly. I wasn't sure if it's a characteristic common to these gearboxes or if it's a quirk exclusive to my car.
    2009 Mk6 Golf 103TDI- Silver Leaf

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    • hmmmm, maybe ask a passenger to record some video and upload it as Unlisted to YouTube and post a link here if you are concerned. On the one hand the car wants to shift up to be as eco as possible, but on the other hand the hill sensor in conjunction with what pedal inputs you make may make the car want to downshift.
      Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
      Audi A3

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      • 7-speed dsg shuddered, please help me out

        delete pls
        Last edited by ryz; 10-08-2015, 10:40 PM.

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        • DSG Shudder

          Originally posted by ryz View Post
          Hi all,

          I own a Golf 6 90TSI with about 35k on the clock... And recently, the dsg started shuddering on the 2nd gear while turning or making an U turn.

          For dsg issues, I had got the clutch pads replaced THREE TIMES in the past 3 yrs . The car was bought in early 2012. The last time I got clutch pad replaced was in June last year in VW dealership in the ACT.

          I am considering taking this car to the dealership again. Before I go there, can anyone please give me some suggestions on how to solve the DSG shuddering PERMANENTLY? It seems that the issues will reoccur by only changing the clutch pad. Should I replace other parts, like mechatronic unit or the whole gearbox?

          And, does vw Australia extend the warranty on gearbox to 5 yrs?

          I really love my vw golf. It's pretty fine other than the annoying gearbox issue. Thanks for your help!!

          Cheers,
          Jay
          Same issue with my wife's 2011 118TSI after the recall rectification 2 years ago. We went to a car dealer to trade in the car for a new car and the used car valuer spotted this issue immediately and, deducted $2K off the value for rectification work, so I lost $2K due to DSG design problems...

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          • Do any of the experienced VW mechanics/enthusiasts on here have any opinion on the idea of performing more regular DSG services (including DSG fluid change). I know the manual says every 60,000km, but does anyone feel there would be significant merit in changing it at, say 30,000km? I'm just thinking that here it's hotter and more humid than Europe, and I also may or may not tend to have a bit more "spirited" driving habits than the average VW driver.... So more regular servicing might reduce my chances of failure down the track and may prolong the service life of the transmission?

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            • I've heard a few recommend it, but they're in the business of servicing VWs, so salt is required.
              Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
              Audi A3

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              • I wonder what the profit margin is on DSG fluid at $60 per litre or whatever it is...

                But yeah I just remember that when I got the 60k DSG service done, it seemed to improve the general smoothness of operation markedly. Then again it could be placebo effect...or maybe a little from column A and a little from column B
                Last edited by Tobes_WIR35; 31-08-2015, 04:35 PM.

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                • My 6 speed DSG on my TDI Passat CC wouldn't go into reverse on the weekend, I had to switch off the ignition then back on for it to work.

                  I scanned the car and there was a transmission fault.

                  Booked it in for assessment next week... The car is out of warranty as well
                  Last edited by Vexed; 31-08-2015, 06:52 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
                    I wonder what the profit margin is on DSG fluid at $60 per litre or whatever it is...

                    But yeah I just remember that when I got the 60k DSG service done, it seemed to improve the general smoothness of operation markedly. Then again it could be placebo effect...or maybe a little from column A and a little from column B
                    I had mine done at 4 years / 30,000km, because it was due and I'm meticulous with sticking to the book. I didn't notice any difference in smoothness or operation at all (fine before, fine after), and the dealer had taken the car over a 20+km drive route to recalibrate the adaptions.

                    A mate of mine recently rang around a number of dealers and independents looking for the best price for the DSG service. Ended up going with a euro specialist independent who charged $500! (AFAIK he used the correct genuine oil, but at that price, you'd wonder...).
                    2008 MkV Volkswagen Golf R32 DSG
                    2005 MkV Volkswagen Golf 2.0 FSI Auto
                    Sold: 2015 8V Audi S3 Sedan Manual
                    Sold: 2010 MkVI Volkswagen Golf GTI DSG

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                    • I honestly don't think the issues with the dq200 relate to the dsg oil. I believe that's one thing vw got right. I haven't changed fluid and I'm on 95000 km with the same smooth gear changes.

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                      • Originally posted by AdamD View Post
                        I had mine done at 4 years / 30,000km, because it was due and I'm meticulous with sticking to the book. I didn't notice any difference in smoothness or operation at all (fine before, fine after), and the dealer had taken the car over a 20+km drive route to recalibrate the adaptions.
                        I guess if my feelings were correct that it felt smoother after getting the 60k service done, and you saying you felt no difference after getting it done at 30k, actually makes me think that it's probably a good thing to do it at 30k. I suppose if you can feel a marked improvement then that means that for at least a decent amount of kilometres things were perhaps not operating as good as they could be, which could lead to higher wear and tear?

                        P.S. - I wish my 4 year old GTI only had 30,000kms on it!! I'm around 93,000km now (but at least I got a new crate engine at 84,000km so the engine is pretty new!)

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                        • Mk VI DSG (DQ250) Advice please

                          Hi all,

                          I'm new here, desperately trying to find a MkVI GTi (in the process of buying one).

                          Most I've looked at seem to have been ass or front ended and had repair work, but that aside, the six speed wet clutch DSG (DQ250) has kind of get me rattled, only one car I've driven seemed to behave itself.

                          Im here to ask the opinion of current owners on what's normal, as being essentially a manual box with a control module, I understand these gearboxes can behave very differently.. so I'm trying to gauge what's acceptable.

                          Recently, I drove a car that when placed into reverse, on a slight incline , jerked in cycles repeatedly.I put the car in reverse, took my foot off the brake , and with no throttle it bucked backward in cycles until I stopped it. It behaved like an old confused mule. Also, upon take off from stationary, Id release the brake (with no throttle) and a few seconds later Id get a shunt forward, not smooth at all and if I didn't apply throttle it would shunt and jerk until it gained enough speed to coast, this seemed to be more pronounced when the car was hot.

                          I absolutely love these cars , on throttle, the DSG is an amazing experience but am beside myself with the transmission quirks....What''s normal here? These cars I'm inspecting are out of warranty, and since a DSG replacement seems to be around 12.5 K , you can understand my concern.

                          Any advice?

                          PS , have combed through this already.
                          Last edited by OffScratch; 04-12-2015, 11:00 PM.

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                          • Sounds like it needs a DSG reset as a minimum. Otherwise a fluid change might be in order too, needs doing every 60k at worst.

                            DSGs don't cost 12k, there's very little chance that the rotating parts of the box are shot.

                            A mechatronics, if that was bad, is around 2k.

                            Personally if there's any doubt move on to the next one. If it's in a dealer's somewhere, have them get it looked at before you consider handing over cash. If they won't,walk away quickly.

                            Gavin
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                            • Originally posted by h100vw View Post
                              Sounds like it needs a DSG reset as a minimum. Otherwise a fluid change might be in order too, needs doing every 60k at worst.

                              DSGs don't cost 12k, there's very little chance that the rotating parts of the box are shot.

                              A mechatronics, if that was bad, is around 2k.

                              Personally if there's any doubt move on to the next one. If it's in a dealer's somewhere, have them get it looked at before you consider handing over cash. If they won't,walk away quickly.

                              Gavin
                              Thanks for the reply. I drove another today, same year, same k's.. Completely different experience, no shuddering at all, even when reversed... Am actually considering exiting the used car lottery and just buying a new MkVII... Realistically, they're only another 10 k more.

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                              • When you drive enough of them, a misbehaving DSG really stands out.
                                '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
                                '01 Beetle 2.0

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