Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

[Elmura]

:Shakes head: Why does Google have a "Developer" function in its stock Android operating system? It's not meant for public use. The vendor then uses this function to test out features & their own implementation. Not Google's fault if a manufacturer then runs the CPU @ 120% over clock & causes rapid battery consumption, excessive heat & freezing.

Revhead by nature

[Eaglen00b]

:Shakes head: Why does Google have a "Developer" function in its stock Android operating system? It's not meant for public use. The vendor then uses this function to test out features & their own implementation. Not Google's fault if a manufacturer then runs the CPU @ 120% over clock & causes rapid battery consumption, excessive heat & freezing.

Revhead by nature

That was my point. If anything, one could possibly argue that Bosch had sloppy programming practices. That's hardly "collusion" or "deceptive conduct" or even an indictable offence. Should've removed test code from the final release!

[Greg Roles]

I don't think you guys have the concepts of a modern CRD pinned down. Power wouldn't be the worrying factor, i would be more concerned with being able to achieve the same fuel consumption post fix. But they are saying it has been achieved and i'm sure if that is untrue we will be seeing you all on today tonight again.

Hooray for some sense in a sea of postulation. Dead easy to add power and further refine economy over the stock ECU tune, the aftermarket tuning industry survives on that fact. The addition of a MAF screen on the 1.6 suggests a refinement of fuel metering, no doubt to achieve fuel economy. I run 130kw and over 400nm on dead stock fuel economy, so as if VW would struggle if need be. Lot of ceiling left in the stock tunes.

My bet is on more EGR, and more frequent DPF burns, both much more difficult to observe and measure, and of those I expect the software patch to mainly be a more aggressive EGR map, and a refined NOX burn map.

Increased need for a catch can and or inlet foam cleaning if anything.

[ParaBul]

Now 96 pages of supposition by bush lawyers and others Why dont we all just wait and see what happens.

Its like Rachael Hunters hair it wont happen overnight but it will happen

This is a discussion forum for VW owners. We are VW owners discussing our cars. If you don't like the discussion, don't read it.

[Ryeman]

VW media now indicate uncertainty about our consumption and CO2 emission figures 'post fix'.......it did seem somewhat inevitable

[ParaBul]

Hooray for some sense in a sea of postulation. Dead easy to add power and further refine economy over the stock ECU tune, the aftermarket tuning industry survives on that fact. The addition of a MAF screen on the 1.6 suggests a refinement of fuel metering, no doubt to achieve fuel economy. I run 130kw and over 400nm on dead stock fuel economy, so as if VW would struggle if need be. Lot of ceiling left in the stock tunes.

How does it perform in the standard laboratory emissions test?

My bet is on more EGR, and more frequent DPF burns, both much more difficult to observe and measure, and of those I expect the software patch to mainly be a more aggressive EGR map, and a refined NOX burn map.

Increased need for a catch can and or inlet foam cleaning if anything.

I agree 100%. I think more EGR will cause more clogging of the DPF, hence burns will be required more frequently. In only notice mine doing a burn if I turn the car off before it's finished - the engine fan continues to run (well, I think that's it - it doesn't seem temperature / load related).

I have an OBDII Bluetooth dongle and Torque Pro - when I monitor EGR, it shows 40% at idle. I was surprised to see it registering anything at idle, much less 40% - I'm wondering if the EGR PID is working properly on the Golf (seems to work OK on my Japanese 4wd, also diesel, but probably not complied to the same emissions standard). Has anybody else monitored EGR% on one of these VW diesels?

[greymad]

Here's how VW do their testing...

https://www.youtube.com/results?lr=&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&gl=AU&q=VW%20%22emissions%20testing%22&sa=N&tab=w1

[ian]

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr310/commodore04/img212.jpg

[ian]

Just received an update on the Diesel software cheat and VW are now claiming they have a solution ,that will not effect engine output or fuel economy whats your thoughts

[Guest001]

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r...e04/img212.jpg

Got that ages ago.

[Guest001]

Just received an update on the Diesel software cheat and VW are now claiming they have a solution ,that will not effect engine output or fuel economy whats your thoughts

Wait and see if it works. What else can you do

[Greg Roles]

Wait and see if it works. What else can you do

Postulate and freak out?

[Guest001]

Postulate and freak out?

Hardly worth getting in a lather about when we dont really know anything is it?

[ParaBul]

Postulate and freak out?

It gives me something to do when I'm not causing respiratory problems in children.

[Greg Roles]

It gives me something to do when I'm not causing respiratory problems in children.

Considering most 3.0 litre tradie utes like the D-Max have only recently gotten DPF's and proper NOX cats, not sure why you feel bad. For sure VW is putting out higher than expected, but how high compared to the typical Australian diesel?