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  • #91
    Originally posted by way View Post
    Based on my experience with high performance cars, I'll say that many of these engines do consume more oil than less performance oriented engines. Also, the same engine on different cars can be quite different even if both cars have been through the same run in procedures. Case in point, we had two high performance cars that use the same 6.2 litre V8. On the first one, we needed to top up oil every 2500km, whereas on the second one high oil consumption has never been an issue. Just don't ask me the science behind it.
    6.2L V8? That would be holden based products and hence, your oil consumption issues

    Anyone remember the first shippment, sorry, first, second, third..... Shippments of the "incredible" Gen III V8 that had a major recall on them due to oil consumption? Turns out the mexicans (factory where the engines were built) kept on putting the wrong pistons in them!

    For those of you being told bulls*it about "running in" oil and who have to top up your oil, ask the people at the dealerships telling you this how your car has used so much oil, yet others haven't had a top-up in close to 10,000kms and see what their answer is There is no difference in the oil, if the oil was "thinner" then it would be a different weight and would not match the VW oil specifications therefore, VW would be voiding their own warranty on the engine. Please people, don't believe the bull that comes out of these people mouths, as many of us 6R buyers / owners have found over the short journey so far, a good amount of the time you are being told something by one of these people, they have no idea what they're talking about.

    Umaii Nai, ask him as he will tell you the truth and is one of 3 VW employees that I trust.
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    • #92
      Having seen similar debates on the mini forums about oil, the consensus of the people in the know was that you should top up with exactly the same spec and brand as what's already in the engine. Even though different brands may meet the same performance specifications they may do so based on different formulations that don't necessarily play nice together when mixed in an engine.

      If you can get the dealer to top it up for free then it's a no-brainer to do it this way. Same oil as what's already in there and free

      Just my 2 cents worth
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Eaglehawk View Post
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        Originally posted by way View Post
        Based on my experience with high performance cars, I'll say that many of these engines do consume more oil than less performance oriented engines. Also, the same engine on different cars can be quite different even if both cars have been through the same run in procedures. Case in point, we had two high performance cars that use the same 6.2 litre V8. On the first one, we needed to top up oil every 2500km, whereas on the second one high oil consumption has never been an issue. Just don't ask me the science behind it.
        Nah, it's just that one of your cars was thrashed by the wharphies or dealership before you got it, and there for the critical <100km thrashing was done


        Originally posted by gavs View Post
        6.2L V8? That would be holden based products and hence, your oil consumption issues
        Could be an AMG. Remember that all the "AMG x63's" are really 6.2's!


        Originally posted by CBR PoloGTI View Post
        Having seen similar debates on the mini forums about oil, the consensus of the people in the know was that you should top up with exactly the same spec and brand as what's already in the engine. Even though different brands may meet the same performance specifications they may do so based on different formulations that don't necessarily play nice together when mixed in an engine.

        If you can get the dealer to top it up for free then it's a no-brainer to do it this way. Same oil as what's already in there and free

        Just my 2 cents worth
        This would make sense if the dealers were actually using the same oil AND "oil additive to make this supposed 'break-in oil'" that the factory did. The factory apparently uses a Castrol oil which is commercially available. Yet, at least the commercial version, isn't some special "break in oil", which raises interesting questions. So it would indicate that the factory is using some type of additive.

        Not all the dealers are even using Castrol. None can tell you what the additive is...

        So my 2c is... use your common sense and just make sure you're sticking to what the owners manual says
        Last edited by Corey_R; 15-07-2011, 09:46 AM. Reason: Added more replies.

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        • #94
          Could be an AMG. Remember that all the "AMG x63's" are really 6.2's!
          Hmmmm, true, but why own 2 of them in such a short period of time...... Though based on way's garage, you might be right, why would you put a damn holden in with european pedigree
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          • #95
            Gavs, not Holden. I don't buy taxis lol. Corey is right, AMGs. And Corey, you could be well right that the car was thrashed before we got it in our hands! Haha.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by gavs View Post
              Hmmmm, true, but why own 2 of them in such a short period of time......
              You are starting to sound like my wife!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by gavs View Post
                Anyone remember the first shippment, sorry, first, second, third..... Shippments of the "incredible" Gen III V8 that had a major recall on them due to oil consumption? Turns out the mexicans (factory where the engines were built) kept on putting the wrong pistons in them!
                Curious, do you mean Mexicans as in south of the US or Mexican as in South (west) of Sydney lol. I ask this because years ago they used to assemble the engines in Port Melb. I'm not sure if they still do that. BTW, you are very knowledgable on all things Polo and car related. Keep up the sharing!

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                • #98
                  No, actual mexicans, sobrero and poncho wearing ones Tis where the old LS plant was.

                  Your wife must be awesome if I sound like her, she has good taste in cars too
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by gavs View Post
                    No, actual mexicans, sobrero and poncho wearing ones Tis where the old LS plant was.

                    Your wife must be awesome if I sound like her, she has good taste in cars too
                    That must be the reason Way's garage is full of awesome rides, he doesn't to convince the wife its time for a new car
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                    AV - Rockford Fosgate T1652-S , T1652 and P3L-S12 Sub. Alpine MRP-F600 and Alpine MRP-M500, Dynamat
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                    • Originally posted by gavs View Post
                      No, actual mexicans, sobrero and poncho wearing ones Tis where the old LS plant was.

                      Your wife must be awesome if I sound like her, she has good taste in cars too
                      That must be the reason Way's garage is full of awesome rides, he doesn't need to convince the wife its time for a new car
                      POLO 77TSI DSG 5D - MY11 - REFLEX SILVER - COMFORT PACK
                      Engine - K&N Air Filter (e-2997)
                      AV - Rockford Fosgate T1652-S , T1652 and P3L-S12 Sub. Alpine MRP-F600 and Alpine MRP-M500, Dynamat
                      Planned - lots, but the "financial manager" says NO

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                      • Originally posted by broxigar1983 View Post
                        That must be the reason Way's garage is full of awesome rides, he doesn't to convince the wife its time for a new car
                        No you are right, I don't need to convince her. I just don't tell her until it's in the garage!

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                        • Originally posted by way View Post
                          No you are right, I don't need to convince her. I just don't tell her until it's in the garage!
                          Touche!
                          POLO 77TSI DSG 5D - MY11 - REFLEX SILVER - COMFORT PACK
                          Engine - K&N Air Filter (e-2997)
                          AV - Rockford Fosgate T1652-S , T1652 and P3L-S12 Sub. Alpine MRP-F600 and Alpine MRP-M500, Dynamat
                          Planned - lots, but the "financial manager" says NO

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                          • just got my GTI. did a trip from melbourne to adelaide and roughly 1200km on the odo now. checked the oil dip and it looked normal.

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                            • Customers 6R Polo GTI was topped with E+5W30, a litre at 1800km then half a litre at 2000km.

                              Seems excessive if you ask me.
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                              • Yeah, i'd say that's a case of the VGA official line of "no problems with oil consumption" piston rings issue that the UK dealers are having to deal with.
                                So far I know of 3 engines being replaced within 5000 miles of ownership and that's only on 1 forum!
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