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  • Originally posted by Bassik View Post
    Oh wow is that right I've been holding back as soon as it hits 100 degrees! Freaked out a couple weeks back when it was hot as and it hit 103.

    Is there proof to back this up or is this just going back your experiences?
    You are running synthetic oil. It's good to at least 120c & 135c wouldn't be out of the question.
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    • Originally posted by Bassik View Post
      Oh wow is that right I've been holding back as soon as it hits 100 degrees! Freaked out a couple weeks back when it was hot as and it hit 103.

      Is there proof to back this up or is this just going back your experiences?
      To be specific, this was from previous tracking experience with a 2008 JDM Honda Civic Type R running the older Motul 300V 5w30. After the track day the oil was in used for another 2000km on street and did a total of 4500km. Used oil analysis was done and the wear rates was healthy and above the averages.

      AS for the PGTI, THe highest I hit and kept going on cross country highways was 128.

      Adding on, the ambient temp we see here in the Tropical climate is between 26-35 degrees celcius. Averaging at 30.
      Last edited by kevinctr; 22-03-2013, 09:52 PM. Reason: Add Ambient Temp

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      • After this shot on Italian Higways my oil arrived at 105°C, but external temp is not so high now...
        OUTLAW
        During last summer I saw 115°C sometimes...

        I'm almost ready for my report of the last 10.000Km done after oil and breather pipe change, about 1.000Km remain to be done, the dipstick from "A" zone is now 3 dots below the upper knurled zone...

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        Last edited by kawabanga; 21-03-2013, 06:59 PM.

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        • Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

          120 is quite easily achievable, I'd recommend getting the data sheet of the oil manufacturer before relying on here-say on a forum not having a go guys but as someone once said, oils ain't oils
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          • Originally posted by BrashDaniels View Post
            A search of the threads on Briskoda shows oooh 5 threads relating to INDIVIDUAL cars with oil problems that MIGHT lead to engine failure. Some of the cars affected are at least 5-8 years old. Australia has only been getting the vRS Fabia since the 2011-2012 Model Year.

            On our own side of the world, the numbers are similarly low. Not to say it's not happening, it is, just not "at an alarming rate" Well not in Fabias anyway.

            So, your worldwide issue is pretty isolated it would seem.

            SKODA just achieved the highest customer satisfaction rating over Porsche. SO people are so upset with their SKODA that they gave them the highest rating ever?

            And beyond that, you drive a GOLF. So, your knowledge in this area is based on, what exactly?

            So, either your statement is an outright troll, or utter nonsense.

            I do note you've indulged in a little SKODA bashing or perhaps "humour". Posting memes and jokes are fun, but doesn't add to the veracity of your claims, or your credibility either.

            At best, it's just a vague grasp at "Look at me, I know stuff" so common in forums these days

            If you have hard cases, figures from SKODA service data, a consumer representative investigation report, or something FACTUAL to add, I would gladly encourage it.

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            Trolling no this is the first vw I've owned ,previous to this I've owned 9 skodas lol, many have had breather mod and new engines, not trolling but adding to the conversation, oh by the way have a look on Italian forum and others

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            • Originally posted by gavs View Post
              Actually mate, the levels are much high than what you seem to be talking about. For CAVE engines in the polo, I would say based on my own research that there is between a 4-6% rate of major issues requiring rebuilds and 20-30% of owners who record oil consumption deemed "acceptable" by VGA yet by all accounts is not because equivalent engines (obviously not twincharged) do not burn as much oil. the. Ever CTHE engine Gti is far better by all accounts in regards to oil consumption.

              Also the survey you are referring to is a customer satisfaction based upon service costs, customer service and dealership interaction, nothing to do with the actual reliability of the motor vehicle. I am sure that if they did that survey, NO VAG brand would be anywhere near the top, bar Porsche. To give an idea of what is deemed an acceptable warranty rate in an automotive company, 1% is generally a figure that raises eyebrows.

              Yep much higher not just engines but the dsg units also , its a great car no doubt but vw are ignoring this issue, oh yes sir we will give you some free oil..then out of warranty you'll get stung for a engine

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              • Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

                Exactly!
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                • My oil usage up until last weekend luckily hasn't been as bad as some of the guys and gals in this forum.
                  I've done around 23k and have taken it to the dealers 3 times for a top up.
                  On the weekend I took it up to Olinda on the weekend to train for my 100km Oxfam walk. I know, You must think I'm crazy! There was lot of accelerating and decelerating up the mountain due to the number of cyclists on that road which was sought of annoying. At one stage the oil temp got up to 102-103C!
                  The next morning as part of my preventative checks I see that the oil level had dropped from say 75% to 20% of the hatched section of the dip stick! Being the weekend with dealers closed I quickly topped it up myself with some full synthetic stuff. Will be monitoring the situation more closely after a heavy drive and would be interesting to see after my road trip to Sydney.

                  Question about operating oil temps. What are people getting?
                  Since about a month ago I noticed my operating oil temp on average had increase by about 3-4deg.
                  I do a lot of freeway driving to and from work and prior to a month ago I was getting 93-94deg and now I'm geting 96-98deg. I know we've been getting quite a few hot days lately but with the relatively cooler weather I'm getting similar figures. On hot days with the occasional "spirited" driving I was getting temps constantly over 100deg. Would long durations at these temperatures degrade the oil?
                  And would this warrant a mid-interval oil change?

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                  • I'd say synthetic oil could handle 110 + deg C with ease. The most I've seen mine is 105 but I've sometimes seen it lower on hotter days than cooler days, It definitely comes down to how the car is driven.

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                    • Originally posted by klboy View Post
                      My oil usage up until last weekend luckily hasn't been as bad as some of the guys and gals in this forum.
                      I've done around 23k and have taken it to the dealers 3 times for a top up.
                      On the weekend I took it up to Olinda on the weekend to train for my 100km Oxfam walk. I know, You must think I'm crazy! There was lot of accelerating and decelerating up the mountain due to the number of cyclists on that road which was sought of annoying. At one stage the oil temp got up to 102-103C!
                      The next morning as part of my preventative checks I see that the oil level had dropped from say 75% to 20% of the hatched section of the dip stick! Being the weekend with dealers closed I quickly topped it up myself with some full synthetic stuff. Will be monitoring the situation more closely after a heavy drive and would be interesting to see after my road trip to Sydney.

                      Question about operating oil temps. What are people getting?
                      Since about a month ago I noticed my operating oil temp on average had increase by about 3-4deg.
                      I do a lot of freeway driving to and from work and prior to a month ago I was getting 93-94deg and now I'm geting 96-98deg. I know we've been getting quite a few hot days lately but with the relatively cooler weather I'm getting similar figures. On hot days with the occasional "spirited" driving I was getting temps constantly over 100deg. Would long durations at these temperatures degrade the oil?
                      And would this warrant a mid-interval oil change?
                      The temperature readings are within normal operating parameters and does not warrant any further investigation or personal stress/anxiety.

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                      • Originally posted by Diesel_vert View Post
                        The temperature readings are within normal operating parameters and does not warrant any further investigation or personal stress/anxiety.
                        +1
                        you'd think we were discussing old air cooled bugs running on 30 weight mineral oil.
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                        • I'm using VW oil atm so whatever they have put in from the my last breather pipe installation. Castrol I think it is.

                          Ok well still I like to keep it close to 100 but mine is generally around 92-98 never really goes over unless i trash it for a good 5-10mins
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                          • Engine oil temperature will depend on engine load.

                            If one does not like the idea of the MFD displaying a number higher than 100°C, restricting throttle usage, keeping the engine revs down and reducing speed will ensure of that.

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                            • I have seen 105 degrees... pedelling pretty hard. Fabia RS.

                              Been told by those that run modified versions that 120/130 is common on a track.

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                              • Having enjoyed my 1.2TSI Highline for 12 months I'm very seriously considering a trade in to a new GTI (MY2013). This thread and others similar on alternative sites have given me some serious pause for thought. I've got a couple of questions that I hope someone might be able to answer:

                                1. I've read somewhere that VW has modified the 1.4 132kW engine to help overcome high oil usage. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, when the new engines started being fitted to cars? If there is a new engine variant, does the engine have a new code that I could check against to make the car I'm thinking of buying has the new engine?

                                2. Slightly different subject: I know the standard (everything but the GTI) 5-door Polo is built in South Africa. I've read somewhere that the GTI is built in Germany. Can anyone confirm this?

                                Thanks,

                                Simon

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