Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

[gavs]

How do these things pass euro emissions tests...

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Exactly the point I have made. If one can prove that the vehicle is defective as per sale description in regards to emissions compliance, you can reject the vehicle and contrary to what any dealership employee will say, if they don't try to fix it and / or can't fix it, you are entitled to a refund or replacement vehicle.

fontana302, you should start looking into a) going to another dealership and b) legal action. your car is well outside acceptable levels, your engine should have stripped down and re-built as well as the fitment of the breather pipe.

[Bassik]

Got my Gti back from the VW workshop they installed new breather pipe... car feels so much better. Not sure if this is because I was driving around a Polo Trendline the entire day but we'll see how the oil consumption is now.

[Zakarados]

Had breather pipe #03C 103 474 AD installed, made no difference to oil consumption 7/2/13 travelled 738km, oil light on topped up 1l; 15/2/13 travelled 609km, oil light on topped up 1l; 19/2/13 latest software update, dealer overfilled not sure how much oil added; 8/3/13 travelled 1113km oil light on topped up 1l.

Hope I can last till next Monday before oil light comes on as I have no more oil to top up - car is going in for connection pipe between air intake and intake manifold #6R0 129 684 E & ventilation hose for the air intake #03C 103 558 AA. replacement.

I am a bit pessimistic that it will make any difference. Wondering when enough is enough? Anyone with consistently worse oil consumption than this?

CAVE at 8000km, oil usage getting worse not better with mileage and updates. Reckon I've gone though at least 8l of oil.........

Car goes great btw, can't understand why I haven't fouled any spark plugs yet.

Your story sounds like my one, never ending dramas.

[RossP]

Just in response to emissions guys, I had mine tested as part of the case put up to the CTTT. The thing is that the nitrous & noxious emissions are pretty much normal in the cars. That is all that the authorities care about as far as defects go. Of course, the carbon figures and fuel consumption were way out of whack compared to spec - they did the correct "euro" drive test & carbon emissions were almost 50% above factory specs. So that is going to be part of the ordered repair of the car - getting the emissions to factory spec. I wish them luck. In NSW free Roads & Maritime Services emissions testing is available at Penrith & Bondi I believe.

[Bassik]

Not sure if this is off topic but what temp would you guys say your oil shouldn't exceed?

[Diesel_vert]

Not sure if this is off topic but what temp would you guys say your oil shouldn't exceed?

On the few modern cars that I've seen which are still fitted with oil temperature gauges, the red coloured 'danger' region is marked at around 150°C.

[Seboni121]

Hi I'm in Wales and a member of briskoda forum and the skoda fabia vrs 1.4tsi are failing at an alarming rate , oil usage and coil packs so its worldwide issue

[BrashDaniels]

Re: Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

Hi I'm in Wales and a member of briskoda forum and the skoda fabia vrs 1.4tsi are failing at an alarming rate , oil usage and coil packs so its worldwide issue

A search of the threads on Briskoda shows oooh 5 threads relating to INDIVIDUAL cars with oil problems that MIGHT lead to engine failure. Some of the cars affected are at least 5-8 years old. Australia has only been getting the vRS Fabia since the 2011-2012 Model Year.

On our own side of the world, the numbers are similarly low. Not to say it's not happening, it is, just not "at an alarming rate" Well not in Fabias anyway.

So, your worldwide issue is pretty isolated it would seem.

SKODA just achieved the highest customer satisfaction rating over Porsche. SO people are so upset with their SKODA that they gave them the highest rating ever?

And beyond that, you drive a GOLF. So, your knowledge in this area is based on, what exactly?

So, either your statement is an outright troll, or utter nonsense.

I do note you've indulged in a little SKODA bashing or perhaps "humour". Posting memes and jokes are fun, but doesn't add to the veracity of your claims, or your credibility either.

At best, it's just a vague grasp at "Look at me, I know stuff" so common in forums these days

If you have hard cases, figures from SKODA service data, a consumer representative investigation report, or something FACTUAL to add, I would gladly encourage it.

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[iigx]

So some good news on my front. My MY 12.5 GTI had a complete engine rebuild on the 2nd week of Feb.

5 weeks on, and around 1200kms - went for an oil consumption test today and it was still full. I've also had no oil spit on my boot since the works - so VERY happy.

The only real complaint i have now is that from a cold start the car is very jerky for the first acceleration (even if its super light). Not sure if its a DSG issue, or just the engine doing its thing as it is cold.

[Rubbadub]

It seems to be a common thing for them to run a bit "lumpy" when cold. Depending on how long I take to get my **** together getting out of my drive, I can have a little stutter up to or even past the point where the auto-lock clicks. It all smooths out after that. I find it interesting that even on a fifteen minute stop-start trip, the oil temperature is often still under 90 degrees - just shows how long it takes to warm an engine properly.

[kevinctr]

Not sure if this is off topic but what temp would you guys say your oil shouldn't exceed?

135 degree celcius is where I would stop pushing the car.

[gavs]

Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

A search of the threads on Briskoda shows oooh 5 threads relating to INDIVIDUAL cars with oil problems that MIGHT lead to engine failure. Some of the cars affected are at least 5-8 years old. Australia has only been getting the vRS Fabia since the 2011-2012 Model Year.

On our own side of the world, the numbers are similarly low. Not to say it's not happening, it is, just not "at an alarming rate" Well not in Fabias anyway.

So, your worldwide issue is pretty isolated it would seem.

SKODA just achieved the highest customer satisfaction rating over Porsche. SO people are so upset with their SKODA that they gave them the highest rating ever?

And beyond that, you drive a GOLF. So, your knowledge in this area is based on, what exactly?

So, either your statement is an outright troll, or utter nonsense.

I do note you've indulged in a little SKODA bashing or perhaps "humour". Posting memes and jokes are fun, but doesn't add to the veracity of your claims, or your credibility either.

At best, it's just a vague grasp at "Look at me, I know stuff" so common in forums these days

If you have hard cases, figures from SKODA service data, a consumer representative investigation report, or something FACTUAL to add, I would gladly encourage it.

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Actually mate, the levels are much high than what you seem to be talking about. For CAVE engines in the polo, I would say based on my own research that there is between a 4-6% rate of major issues requiring rebuilds and 20-30% of owners who record oil consumption deemed "acceptable" by VGA yet by all accounts is not because equivalent engines (obviously not twincharged) do not burn as much oil. the. Ever CTHE engine Gti is far better by all accounts in regards to oil consumption.

Also the survey you are referring to is a customer satisfaction based upon service costs, customer service and dealership interaction, nothing to do with the actual reliability of the motor vehicle. I am sure that if they did that survey, NO VAG brand would be anywhere near the top, bar Porsche. To give an idea of what is deemed an acceptable warranty rate in an automotive company, 1% is generally a figure that raises eyebrows.

[Bassik]

135 degree celcius is where I would stop pushing the car.

Oh wow is that right I've been holding back as soon as it hits 100 degrees! Freaked out a couple weeks back when it was hot as and it hit 103.

Is there proof to back this up or is this just going back your experiences?

[nomadx38]

Even more off topic but I had a golf diesel as a loan car and just running it normally it would be at 105 drgrees so I wouldn't be concerned.

All these cars have water cooled oil coolers so it will keep a relatively constant temp. If you were really pushing you car to the point where it became excessively hot, the car would start taking preventative measures to prevent damage, such as limit throttle / power output, cylinder cutoff and retardation of ignition timing to prevent pre-detonation (pinging).

[Rubbadub]

I've seen mine at 108 on a hot (35 degree plus) day merely going uphill in "D" and not overly pushing it.