Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

[cal213]

My MY13 is cav engine number also so it's not just the 12.5 models

damn so the dealer was possibly telling me fibs with my numbers? i havent yet seen it on paper

[nomadx38]

No that it helps any of you guys but I'm up in Sydney seeing my cousin who has a Subaru XV and even she said she has major oil consumption issues. (About 1L/1000km)

She has asked the dealer what the next move is but the dealer said that its currently effecting all 2012 XV's and they are investigating the problem. In the mean time they can get free oil top ups. She isn't particularly happy as she lives in Singleton NSW and the only Subaru dealer is in Metford 50km away, so when the oil light comes in she can barely make it to get it topped up.

[brad]

No that it helps any of you guys but I'm up in Sydney seeing my cousin who has a Subaru XV and even she said she has major oil consumption issues. (About 1L/1000km)

She has asked the dealer what the next move is but the dealer said that its currently effecting all 2012 XV's and they are investigating the problem. In the mean time they can get free oil top ups. She isn't particularly happy as she lives in Singleton NSW and the only Subaru dealer is in Metford 50km away, so when the oil light comes in she can barely make it to get it topped up.

Get the dealer to give her a few 1l bottles of oil

[Veeduby]

My usage so far:

Sept 14 2012 - Picked up brand new car.
Nov 9 2012 - ~3500km / first top up (was half way on the dipstick)
Dec 20 2012 - ~7000km - currently 2/3 marked on the dipstick

zzz at least its improved a tiny bit over time I guess...

[MJKooLio]

Guys, go get the Breather hose was replaced! I got mine done last week and it doesn't chew up as much oil as it use to!

[Zakarados]

Guys, go get the Breather hose was replaced! I got mine done last week and it doesn't chew up as much oil as it use to!

This will be on the cards early next year...

How does does this process take?

[fontana302]

Just order VW part #03C 103 474 AD, cost $165, it's plug & play. Your time is worth much more than this after you've gone through the mill argueing & debating how much oil you should/shouldn't use.

I was told 1L/1000km is acceptable oil usage by Austral VW in Brisbane. That means 15l consumption annually. 5l of 5W30 costs $75 min. So based on this consumption rate (which is totally unacceptable, but OK by VW) you are in front in less than a year. That way (replacement) VW has no excuse for consumption if it remains as they have no other solution.......


I reckon it's an inadequate oil sparation issue. The one in the timing cover meant to do it is too small. There is an engineering issue, routing in an external separator is my next solution.

[kawabanga]

Tolerance for VW is 1 liter every 2.000 Kms, as stated in the user manual.
If you have an higher consumption you must have the breather pipe for free and in the meantime oil top up for free...

If the consumption won't be better also after the pipe change, you can ask for a new engine and in the meantime top ups are again for free...

[prcurrie]

Just order VW part #03C 103 474 AD, cost $165, it's plug & play. Your time is worth much more than this after you've gone through the mill argueing & debating how much oil you should/shouldn't use.

I was told 1L/1000km is acceptable oil usage by Austral VW in Brisbane. That means 15l consumption annually. 5l of 5W30 costs $75 min. So based on this consumption rate (which is totally unacceptable, but OK by VW) you are in front in less than a year. That way (replacement) VW has no excuse for consumption if it remains as they have no other solution.......


I reckon it's an inadequate oil sparation issue. The one in the timing cover meant to do it is too small. There is an engineering issue, routing in an external separator is my next solution.

Seriously, it all comes down to the dealer you take it to. Without question, my dealer booked it in to be fitted and the process took 1/2 a day.

My consumption wasn't super excessive (as some on here) but I think that now some dealers know all the issues and rather than fighting customers, they're just replacing stuff. I can't stress how finding a 'good' dealer helps the process........

[alexz]

do MY13's come standard with this part? or is there anyway to tell?

[fontana302]

It's a 10 minute job to fit the new oil breather tube, not a half day:

1. Pull up engine cover at front & slide forward to remove.
2. Remove 4 Torx screws.
3. Pull off tube.

Replace is simply reverse order.

[Lemonskin]

Seriously, it all comes down to the dealer you take it to. Without question, my dealer booked it in to be fitted and the process took 1/2 a day.

My consumption wasn't super excessive (as some on here) but I think that now some dealers know all the issues and rather than fighting customers, they're just replacing stuff. I can't stress how finding a 'good' dealer helps the process........

Will any dealer do this for free? Even if I didn't buy the car from them?

[RoknRob]

Will any dealer do this for free? Even if I didn't buy the car from them?

Any dealer should look after warranty work. But don't expect them to trust anyone else's oil consumption test. I gather they don't make much money from warranty work, and so may try to stall you (by making you redo an oil consumption test, for example).

A savvy dealer will give you very little trouble, as an investment, in the hopes you will choose their service department again in the future.

[Varnak]

It's a 10 minute job to fit the new oil breather tube, not a half day:

1. Pull up engine cover at front & slide forward to remove.
2. Remove 4 Torx screws.
3. Pull off tube.

Replace is simply reverse order.

It is not as easy since the midddle return (the one that ends up just before the throttle body) needs to be slightly heated and shaped into correct form so it does not break with vibrations.
It also needs the clip attached to its end (at least in my cupra that was the deal).

Let me ask something those that have fitted the pipe themselves. There was a small rubber plug at the end of the middle pipe (the one that ens up just before the throttle body). Did you have to remove this in order to attach the clip that secures the middle return to the manifold pipe?

(perhaps i need a picture)

Thanks guys.


BTW i was consuming 950 ml of CAstrol edge every 10K km (which i gues is not bad for the particular engine) . Lets see if that improves with the new breather pipe.

I own a 2010 Cupra currently in its 2nd engine (MY12.5 spec engine) after having missfires in no3 cylinder of my first engine . Both engine had similar oil consumption though, which is not too bad for a VW.

[RoknRob]

BTW i was consuming 950 ml of CAstrol edge every 10K km (which i gues is not bad for the particular engine) . Lets see if that improves with the new breather pipe.

I own a 2010 Cupra currently in its 2nd engine (MY12.5 spec engine) after having missfires in no3 cylinder of my first engine . Both engine had similar oil consumption though, which is not too bad for a VW.

Wow! Less than a litre per 10k? You are so lucky...