Tigger73's 125TSI Tiguan Build Thread

[tigger73]

OK so now after talking to the Whiteline guys again the ALK has now been put back on. Even though the housing doesn't bolt flush they reckon the loads on it aren't high enough for this to be a real problem. They use the same kit on a number of different makes/models so it's a bit of a compromise in terms of fitment.

Nice thing was due to my pain an suffering they threw me a couple of other mounts which got fitted too so I've got a few more yellow bits on my car now (front engine torque arm insert, rear trailing arms).

Nice to have the ALK back on it's quite a difference in handling (much flatter in corners). Also significantly less dipping under brakes and lifting on acceleration.

[Tiggy1]

Hi mate. Good to hear you're getting somewhere
Another case of the poor old Tigs being neglected by after-market accessory manufacturers!
I've got a H&R 26mm rear ASB and Whiteline HD adjustable end links on the way for mine. After your dramas I'm going to leave doing the front until after seeing how it handles with just the rear ( hopefully won't make it too tail-happy?!)
Cheers.

[tigger73]

Rear bar is a big difference as the stock one is pretty lightweight in comparison. Nowhere near as noticeable change doing front - a bit but not worlds apart. Stock front bar is already reasonable.

Having said that I'm loving all the bits as handling is greatly improved. And body roll is almost non existent in comparison.

[tigger73]

OK so here's the rest of the pics of the various Whiteline bits.

KCA316 Control arm - lower inner rear bushing (anti-lift/caster correction)
"Whiteline Anti Lift Kit (WALK) is designed to add 0.5 deg static positive caster to both front wheels while changing the nature of front anti-dive & lift. This leads to superior traction under power including cornering & dramatically reducing understeer & front wheel spin. The additional castor coupled with the new firmer bushings supplied serve to dramatically sharpen initial turn-in response then forcing more consistent alignment angles through the corner due to the reduced bush compliance"

I can say that the ALK is a definite "must have" mod. I didn't ever have wheel spin issues with the AWD system, however cornering turn-in is greatly improved and also the lack of nose dive on braking and lift on acceleration is a noticeable improvement.




Due to my "pain and suffering" Whiteline were good enough to supply a couple of other parts for me to fit to the underside of my Tig.

KDT914 Engine - torque arm insert bushing.
"Whiteline's synthetic elastomer torque arm inserts work in conjunction with the OE rubber bushing giving your car better throttle response as well as more crisp and defined gear shifts. Suits both Automatic or manual transmissions."

I can't say that I've noticed much in the throttle response/gear shift department. Maybe if I didn't have a DSG box this would be more noticeable.






W0504 Rear Trailing arm - front bushing
Whiteline bushings utilise the latest technology synthetic elastomer combined with effective designs such as the internal bore knurling and grease retention lips for optimum lubrication & performance.

Probably not a mod I would have done otherwise. I haven't really noticed anything much after a couple of days of city driving with this bushing and not sure what effect this is likely to have either - perhaps less squeaking from rear suspension??

[Tiggy1]

Good to hear you've got it all sorted, and extra goodies certainly can't hurt
I've got the Superpro front lower control arm bush replacements, and definitely makes a difference to the turn in/steering responsive (as you say). I replaced my rear trailing arm bushes as well (mainly because that‘s where I thought rattling noise was coming from) and as you say hasn't made noticeable difference to handling, but having seen how light/flimsy the original ones are I'm glad I did it anyway!
Just the rear ASB and links to go (should be here soon) and mine should be getting pretty close to where I want it. Except for the tune of course, but that‘s a whole other story

[tigger73]

OK next upgrade is on its way - have some new red (go faster) coil packs getting shipped out from ECS Tuning. Hopefully these will last a bit better than the stock Tig ones.

[team_v]

OK next upgrade is on its way - have some new red (go faster) coil packs getting shipped out from ECS Tuning. Hopefully these will last a bit better than the stock Tig ones.

Are they the R8 ones?
Apparently the guys running K04's in the US are having to upgrade to R8 ones to stop missfires.

[tigger73]

Are they the R8 ones?
Apparently the guys running K04's in the US are having to upgrade to R8 ones to stop missfires.

The ones I got were ones recommended by ECS for the GTI/R - Home Page > Search > 06E898001 > ES#2065380 Ignition Coil - Set Of Four - 06E898001.

The R8 coil packs are slightly different part number - Audi R8 V8 4.2L > Engine > Ignition > ES#2538571 Ignition Coil - Set Of Eight - 06E905115EKT8

But after a little further investigation this part looks like it may fit also. I just couldn't be 100% that the coil-packs for the V8 would fit the 4 cylinder engine so I went the safe option.

[tigger73]

I've had my R8 coil packs in for a couple of weeks now - only just got around to loading up a photo.



Very easy install - 5 minutes to change over the coil packs.

Pull the old ones out using a "special" tool comprising 2 x zip ties looped.

Definitely 5kW advantage from the red colour on the top

[tigger73]

DQ500 DSG Tune...

Next mod is a DQ500 DSG tune... happening on Monday night

[MGV]

Definitely 5kW advantage from the red colour on the top

Looks great, i would be tempted to leave the engine cover off!

[team_v]

Interested to see how you find the coil packs.
I might source a set and get them put on when the car goes in for its next service.

[tigger73]

Interested to see how you find the coil packs.
I might source a set and get them put on when the car goes in for its next service.

In terms of performance there is no noticeable difference - though they do have an aesthetic appeal.

I put them in as a bit of insurance after I had a failure of a stock coil pack. Car was off the road for 3 days while I got it replaced.

After a bit of further investigation I found out it's not an uncommon failure in tuned VW's. The solution that a number of others have implemented is to put in the higher rated coil packs out of the performance audis as they are identical size/shape to "stock" VW ones.

They do look good (under the engine cover) but for me it was to make sure my car stayed on the road. Plus I'd hate for a coil pack to go while I was on a country trip. I now carry my "stock" set in the boot - just in case.

Installation is very easy:

• Remove engine cover (pops off),
• Unplug connector/harness
• Pull coil packs (you can get a special tool but a couple of zip ties works just as well)
• Install new coil packs
• Reinstall wiring harness and engine cover

Set of 4 can be done in 5 minutes

[michael_ozzie]

Next mod is a DQ500 DSG tune... happening on Monday night

Great to hear Tigger, can't wait to see what kind of improvement the tune will bring, in real world environment.

[tigger73]

Great to hear Tigger, can't wait to see what kind of improvement the tune will bring, in real world environment.

Yes I am hoping that it will improve things to the point where I don't feel the need to drive in manual mode.

I have found that since tuning the car this has tended to highlight the less than favourable gear selection that the DSG makes from time to time. The key thing for me is kicking down a gear or two when in "D" and you stick your boot in - particularly when you need to get moving in a hurry.

Personally I'd prefer to be in the right gear rather than operating efficiently when I am pulling out into traffic and need to get up to speed.

So we'll see if the DSG tune is all it's cracked up to be. Hopefully it makes the DSG a while lot more driveable.

Will keep you all posted.