Tigger73's 125TSI Tiguan Build Thread

[ido09s]

Ignore this, i just stumbled across a link to the Complete guide.

Though i still would like to know what people are paying for them?

I dont have all day to read the other thread but whats the idea behind this box? and whats it worth?

Is it simply a way of enabling more info on the MFD? and some other functions for the car as listed above?

Given that is monitors all those engine parameters i wouldnt mind getting a hold of one if its reasonably priced.

Also, is it accessed and adjusted through the MFD or a laptop?

[tigger73]

Now that I have this new toy, just wondering whether we can compare some stats.

Boost PSI: -7 to -1
Torque Nm: up to 320

Curious what other Tigs are reading (both stock and flashed)?

I've got my boost pressure set on mbar as I found the PSI reading was a little coarse for my liking. I'd have liked at least one if not 2 decimal points on the PSI reading. Will have to put it on a "wish list" for the developers.

I'll have to check my Nm values. I have a tune + DP so would be interested to compare values... and then to stick it on a dyno and see if it measures right.

But back to topic ... can't seem to get automatic mode to work at all for mirror dipping.
Also even manual mode resets itself after a while.

I assume the configuration once saved is supposed to be saved down for good?

Check what firmware version you have. I know there were issues with omfort settings not being saved properly in version 0.3.1. I've updated to 0.3.2b2 and it's fixed.

With "automatic" setting you have to put it in reverse with your indicator on for it to adjust. It shouldn't matter where your mirror selector switch is in "automatic". I have to admit I haven't played with this setting as I use it in "manual" mode so I can reverse back down the driveway. I don't want to have my indicators on just to do this.

[tigger73]

Ignore this, i just stumbled across a link to the Complete guide.

Though i still would like to know what people are paying for them?

I dont have all day to read the other thread but whats the idea behind this box? and whats it worth?

Is it simply a way of enabling more info on the MFD? and some other functions for the car as listed above?

Given that is monitors all those engine parameters i wouldnt mind getting a hold of one if its reasonably priced.

Also, is it accessed and adjusted through the MFD or a laptop?

Yes a lot of your answers are over in the Complete Guide including the Tiguan installation instructions

Laptop is only used to update firmware (via USB cable). All parameters and set-up is from menus in the MFD using buttons on your steering wheel.

PM sent re pricing and availability.

[tigger73]

Now that I have this new toy, just wondering whether we can compare some stats.

Boost PSI: -7 to -1
Torque Nm: up to 320

Curious what other Tigs are reading (both stock and flashed)?

Did some "testing" tonight and mine gets up to 451Nm and runs from -7 to +2 psi (-505 to +185mbar) on boost.

That's with a DP and stage 2 tune.

[aussietig]

Did some "testing" tonight and mine gets up to 451Nm and runs from -7 to +2 bar (-505 to +185mbar) on boost.

That's with a DP and stage 2 tune.

Thanks for posting your stats.

Another one I'm curious about is Fuel PSI. Mine seems to sit idle at zero all the time.

A little paranoid whether that's normal or not.

[tigger73]

Thanks for posting your stats.

Another one I'm curious about is Fuel PSI. Mine seems to sit idle at zero all the time.

A little paranoid whether that's normal or not.

I'll have to check this one out too. If you find some issues with a particular parameter best to let the developers at AutoPolar know. Post any issues at the AutoPolar Forum.

I know I did some logging a little while back with VCDS of my fuel pressure and pump duty%. Pump duty only reached 80% under hard acceleration.

[ido09s]

Did some "testing" tonight and mine gets up to 451Nm and runs from -7 to +2 bar (-505 to +185mbar) on boost.

That's with a DP and stage 2 tune.

Is it measured in bar?

[tigger73]

Is it measured in bar?

Sorry the numbers I quoted was PSi - corrected in post. You can select whether you want boost pressure in psi, bar or mbar.

[aussietig]

Sorry the numbers I quoted was PSi - corrected in post. You can select whether you want boost pressure in psi, bar or mbar.

Have found that setting boost options in 'Advanced' settings to 'Diagnostic', instead of 'Automatic' provides more recognisable readings in PSI.

That is, 0 to 12 PSI for my stock 147.

[tigger73]

Have found that setting boost options in 'Advanced' settings to 'Diagnostic', instead of 'Automatic' provides more recognisable readings in PSI.

That is, 0 to 12 PSI for my stock 147.

I'll have to give that a try. There's a few settings that I haven't worked out yet.

[aussietig]

I'll have to give that a try. There's a few settings that I haven't worked out yet.

Yep and kindly report back.

I remember my mk5 GTI use to hit 20 PSI with a Superchips Stage 1 flash (measured with a New South gauge).

[Bambazonke]

i note this little box of tricks can also activate one touch closing in addition to mirror lowering in reverse. Has anyone managed to do this using VCDS? It used to be possible in the pre 2010 models that had the old module 46 at Byte 6 bit 6

[tigger73]

i note this little box of tricks can also activate one touch closing in addition to mirror lowering in reverse. Has anyone managed to do this using VCDS? It used to be possible in the pre 2010 models that had the old module 46 at Byte 6 bit 6

Yes I've got one-touch closing on mine - though it's activated through Auto-Polar FIS+.

Some of these options which are enabled through FIS+ are just VCDS settings so it may well be possible. Though sometimes the FIS+ will provide additional functionality to enable the function (e.g mirror dipping).

[tigger73]

Yep and kindly report back.

I remember my mk5 GTI use to hit 20 PSI with a Superchips Stage 1 flash (measured with a New South gauge).

OK so the update on boost pressure is that in the latest release (0.3.2) they've increase the resolution to 0.1 PSI.

Here's the full details on boost pressure - original post is here: INFO : Some detailed info about "TURBO PRESSURE" parameter (Read this before ask)

TURBO PRESSURE parameter (extended info)


How to configure you PolarFIS to correctly read turbo pressure

To read turbo pressure, normally it is not necessary to configure anything in your PolarFIS unit.
There is a configuration inside the box that automatically selects the best option to read turbo pressure.
However, there's a few models which this automatic function doesn't work.
This guide will help you to identify if this is your case.

These are available options in the turbo pressure menu:

- AUTOMATIC : PolarFIS will select the best option for your vehicle automatically. RECOMMENDED !! (by default)
- INFORT X1 : Obtain the turbo pressure from the infotainment bus.
- INFORT X2 : Obtain the turbo pressure from the infotainment bus. The reading is then multiplied by 2 (only vehicles in which the bus shows half pressure).
- DIAGNOSIS : Obtain the turbo pressure from the diagnosis bus, recommended in vehicles that the other options don't work.


What values does the PolarFIS show in my screen ?? I not have idea ...

The value that PolarFIS displays is the result of subtracting the barometric pressure from the boost pressure read from the bus.
This is due to the boost pressure sensor indicating values in absolute pressure (BOOST+BAROMETRIC)

But, sometimes i see negative values, why does this happen??

Normally with the engine at idle there will be a small vacuum in the intake manifold, so reading will be negative (around -5 to -15 mbar or -0.07 to -0.2 PSI). This is normal.
However, in some models there's no negative readings and with engine at idle the reading is 0 mbar or 0 PSI, we can't do anything about that because this reading is done directly from the Diagnostics bus of the engine ecu.

However, a small negative reading as indicated is normal, but if you have a reading less than -100 mbar or -1.4 PSI it means that boost is not reading correctly.

In this case, you must enter into the Polar FIS configuration menu, and select SCREEN->VISUALIZATION->ADVANCED->BOOST OPTIONS and choose the option INFORT. x2.

This is due to pressure read from infotainment bus being divided by 2 in some cars.

If the problem persists or you have no reading of boost pressure, enter in the same menu and choose DIAGNOSTICS option.

[Bambazonke]

I was rather hoping you had done this with VCDS. I suppose i will just have to wait for someone to stumble across it and post it on the forum. I bought my cable second hand so I cannot approach Dana @ ross tech for assistance on this.

This box of tricks must have some memory capacity to retain the settings for the mirror down function to work. At least we know the wiring does not need to be modified.

The new Tiguan has the new door controllers that incorporate the rear door modules as slave modules. I have been playing around with the long coding on the two modules as there are options to turn on the mirror lowering function here as well.. However it appears they do not have the memory capacity to store settings for it to work or maybe i just have not configured it corectly yet