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  • Originally posted by Dan_3MPS View Post
    Ignoring all the for/against of piggyback vs. flash, has anyone used a JB1 or JB4 on their 162 yet?

    Would be interested in hearing any feedback.
    You would expect the gains to be on par with a Golf GTI.. but you need to work out how the JB4 fools the stock sensors and if it may affect anything else in the car such as the Haldex, etc.

    From my tuning background (work with only JDM cars, aftermarket ECUs, reflash EVO ecus, etc.) I hate piggy backs with a passion.
    Daily 2018 Tiguan MK2 Sportline (Drag & Drop Tune, 12.9s @ 108mph)
    Weekend/Track 1996 Skyline R33 GTS-t Stage 99 (Built Motor, GTX3576 Gen 2, 407rwkW) [Build Thread]

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    • I've got a JB4 on mine, and have been happy with it - by far the better option if you're concerned about warranty etc. They're hugely customisable too so you can tinker away if you're that way inclined. Paired with the bluetooth adapter and iphone app, it's a fantastic way of getting some more power out of the car

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      • JB4s are not like the piggy backs of yester year, it has some smarts and used on a wide range of cars now. BMW, VW, Merc KIA stinger. Good little unit for the price. Enjoy mate

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        • Originally posted by ajdean View Post
          I've got a JB4 on mine, and have been happy with it - by far the better option if you're concerned about warranty etc. They're hugely customisable too so you can tinker away if you're that way inclined. Paired with the bluetooth adapter and iphone app, it's a fantastic way of getting some more power out of the car
          What are the claimed power outputs compared to APR etc. stage 1?
          Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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          • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
            What are the claimed power outputs compared to APR etc. stage 1?
            Hard to say mate as APR use flywheel numbers...
            APR say 87hp, so ~65kW, then minus what you think drive line loss is

            I got ~25 Wheel kW gain from a pre set map 2 (which is +5psi over stock)
            Only mods were the airbox cut out and foam high flow filter.
            You would be able to make Map6 (full custom) with a stock car and make more than 25kW (easy)
            - a Mate got 50kw and 100nm gains with map06 on stock GTI PP

            Note: FWD only (GTI), 169kW at fly, 153Wheel kw
            Stock, Map 1 (+4psi over stock), Map 2 (+5.xx psi over stock)

            Im currently Over 200 Wheel kW with intake and downpipe, Once I do an Intercooler, Ill prob go see Ben at BSP/tarmac engineering/Spectune. Mate has over 235Wheel kW with there tune.

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            • Picked up my Tig this morning, to recap, my list of mods include

              - IS38 Turbo upgrade
              - APR Turbo muffler delete
              - APR Turbo inlet pipe
              - ECS Silicone hose
              - BMC hiflow air filter
              - Airbox mod
              - APR dogbone
              - APR AWD Down Pipe

              Each upgrade to date had an incremental performance increase with Stage 1 being the biggest until now......

              Finding it hard to describe the difference with the IS38 and tune. To put it in a word 'WOW', car pulls REALLY hard now, roads are pretty greasy down in Melbourne today so being careful. Can't wipe the grin from my face, it's the go hard practical car I've always wanted

              Love the fact it can still putt around in traffic, with my bike in the back or a boot full of groceries, you wouldn't even know it's had work done it whilst at cruising speed with the ACC on. Then stomp on the gas and it transforms..

              No pops and bangs just yet, Melbourne_Tiggys was a special request from APR, just waiting on the file to be made available to my car so hopefully soon.
              MY17 Tiguan 162 Highline | DAP | Rline | Pano Sunroof | Pure White
              Stage 2.5 - APR DP, APR Turbo inlet, Muffler delete, IS38 Turbo, APR tune

              MY18 Tiguan 162 Highline AllSpace | Sound & Vision | Sunroof | Blue Silk

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              • Originally posted by TheTig View Post
                Picked up my Tig this morning, to recap, my list of mods include

                - IS38 Turbo upgrade
                - APR Turbo muffler delete
                - APR Turbo inlet pipe
                - ECS Silicone hose
                - BMC hiflow air filter
                - Airbox mod
                - APR dogbone
                - APR AWD Down Pipe

                Each upgrade to date had an incremental performance increase with Stage 1 being the biggest until now......

                Finding it hard to describe the difference with the IS38 and tune. To put it in a word 'WOW', car pulls REALLY hard now, roads are pretty greasy down in Melbourne today so being careful. Can't wipe the grin from my face, it's the go hard practical car I've always wanted

                Love the fact it can still putt around in traffic, with my bike in the back or a boot full of groceries, you wouldn't even know it's had work done it whilst at cruising speed with the ACC on. Then stomp on the gas and it transforms..

                No pops and bangs just yet, Melbourne_Tiggys was a special request from APR, just waiting on the file to be made available to my car so hopefully soon.
                Congratulations mate! It is a true beast. There are now 2 is38 tigs (at least) creeping the streets of Melbourne!!! We must be the top Tig modification place in the world. Welcome to the IS38 club!
                VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                • How much $$ are we talking to say do that list in 1 hit
                  Drive in drive out?
                  Is the 38 laggier? Or much the same but pulls a lot stronger

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                  • Originally posted by smarty View Post
                    How much $$ are we talking to say do that list in 1 hit
                    Drive in drive out?
                    Is the 38 laggier? Or much the same but pulls a lot stronger
                    Don't believe so, mechanic mentioned the IS38 spools up quicker than the IS20. Pickup in 2, 3 & 4th is impressive to say the least!

                    Hard to say on cost as I did it bit by bit so there is some overlap in cost.

                    IS38 is not a cheap upgrade, was lucky enough to get a 2nd hand one from a wreck and it only cost $1500.

                    All up probably anywhere between $6-9k depending on the turbo cost, performance parts, tune and labour
                    MY17 Tiguan 162 Highline | DAP | Rline | Pano Sunroof | Pure White
                    Stage 2.5 - APR DP, APR Turbo inlet, Muffler delete, IS38 Turbo, APR tune

                    MY18 Tiguan 162 Highline AllSpace | Sound & Vision | Sunroof | Blue Silk

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                    • Originally posted by TheTig View Post
                      Picked up my Tig this morning, to recap, my list of mods include

                      - IS38 Turbo upgrade
                      - APR Turbo muffler delete
                      - APR Turbo inlet pipe
                      - ECS Silicone hose
                      - BMC hiflow air filter
                      - Airbox mod
                      - APR dogbone
                      - APR AWD Down Pipe

                      Each upgrade to date had an incremental performance increase with Stage 1 being the biggest until now......

                      Finding it hard to describe the difference with the IS38 and tune. To put it in a word 'WOW', car pulls REALLY hard now, roads are pretty greasy down in Melbourne today so being careful. Can't wipe the grin from my face, it's the go hard practical car I've always wanted

                      Love the fact it can still putt around in traffic, with my bike in the back or a boot full of groceries, you wouldn't even know it's had work done it whilst at cruising speed with the ACC on. Then stomp on the gas and it transforms..

                      No pops and bangs just yet, Melbourne_Tiggys was a special request from APR, just waiting on the file to be made available to my car so hopefully soon.
                      You went to peerless right?

                      Just saw your car on their Facebook feed with IS38. They claim 5.5k total cost for state 3??
                      Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                      • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                        You went to peerless right?

                        Just saw your car on their Facebook feed with IS38. They claim 5.5k total cost for state 3??
                        Yeah that's mine. Reckon that's the cost of a new IS38 perhaps? My car was cheaper than that as the IS38 was second hand. If you're interested, check with them.

                        After a few days driving now.... I freaken love it, it's a beast, sports mode on the DSG is bonkers!
                        MY17 Tiguan 162 Highline | DAP | Rline | Pano Sunroof | Pure White
                        Stage 2.5 - APR DP, APR Turbo inlet, Muffler delete, IS38 Turbo, APR tune

                        MY18 Tiguan 162 Highline AllSpace | Sound & Vision | Sunroof | Blue Silk

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                        • Originally posted by TheTig View Post
                          Yeah that's mine. Reckon that's the cost of a new IS38 perhaps? My car was cheaper than that as the IS38 was second hand. If you're interested, check with them.

                          After a few days driving now.... I freaken love it, it's a beast, sports mode on the DSG is bonkers!
                          When you get a chance and it’s safe, try the launch control. It’s really quite a thrill. If you are driving casually in D it behaves normally, as soon as you put the pedal down....the beast unleashes. Very awesome for overtaking....even in D.....

                          I’ve found pops and bangs quite the novelty....when the engine is at operating temp, you can do a bit of a fly by and get some heads turning.
                          VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                          • I'm selling a JB4 and bluetooth module in the Parts for Sale forum if anyone is interested!

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                            • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                              Pics and details

                              Downpipe
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34434[/ATTACH]

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34435[/ATTACH]

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34436[/ATTACH]

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34437[/ATTACH]


                              034 Motorsport Dog Mount Insert
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34438[/ATTACH]

                              Dyno Time
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34427[/ATTACH]

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34428[/ATTACH]

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34429[/ATTACH]


                              Dyno Graphs

                              Stage 2 final power output
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34430[/ATTACH]

                              Stage 2 vs Stage 1 (Note that the 165kw graph is not used as it dipped at the end because of the transmission playing up on the dyno)
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34431[/ATTACH]

                              Stage 2 vs Stage 1 vs Stock Power Curves
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34432[/ATTACH]

                              Stage 2 vs Stage 1 vs Stock Power & Torque Curves
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]34433[/ATTACH]

                              Only drove back from dyno home in peak heavy traffic and rain, Melbourne weather has been ****e today.

                              In sport can hear dsg farts now even with stock muffler, throatier sound all the way through the rev range so sound better overall. Will see how cold start and sounds once it beds in over the next few days. No time to do any sound clips or videos today, will see how I go during the week.

                              The dog mount insert has made everything feel a lot tighter. Stop/Start is very firm now and hard acceleration feels alot firmer, dont get that shunt in the driveline when coming off hard throttle...
                              How much boost is your stage two running?

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                              • Bout 22-23 psi
                                Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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