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  • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
    When would you say you get full boost by?
    I did a log of boost vs. RPM earlier:

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    It pretty much aligns with the torque curve which is what you actually feel.

    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
    - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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    • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
      I did a log of boost vs. RPM earlier:

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]46821[/ATTACH]

      It pretty much aligns with the torque curve which is what you actually feel.
      Good delivery for everyday driver...
      Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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      • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
        Good delivery for everyday driver...
        Yes I'm happy with how it drives. Car drives just like stock under normal driving conditions but get it over 3,000rpm and you certainly start moving!

        2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

        2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
        2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
        2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
        - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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        • Bring it down to Melbourne for a test drive...

          I get my car back hopefully next week, sick of driving around the bloody base model corolla hire car!
          Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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          • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
            Bring it down to Melbourne for a test drive...

            I get my car back hopefully next week, sick of driving around the bloody base model corolla hire car!
            I feel your pain. I’ll have to see how things pan out but if I end up driving over to Melbourne I’ll definitely arrange to catch up.


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            2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

            2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
            2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
            2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
            - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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            • Very impressed with how it has turned out! Thanks for posting the updates.

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              • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                This is the quickest file for sure and also has most boost. There's possibly a little in it with BP Ultimate, however I run on Vortex98 (not my choice as work fuel card) so it doesn't make sense to tune it on BP fuel.

                I've edited the dyno plot to add on RPM figures. I've calculated the rpm's based on 3rd gear and stuck these onto the curve. Basically in 3rd gear you're doing 60km/hr at 3,000rpm so you can work everything else out from there:

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]46820[/ATTACH]

                You can see by the torque curve it's actually pretty flat (no massive peaks) but you do definitely feel it come onto boost. It's at max torque from around 3,500rpm to 5,000rpm and pulls well from 2,000rpm.

                That's also why the torque figures are higher as the run has been done in third (although I did request 4th gear).

                I did go back out to do a Gtech run but didn't get any better than 4.4sec. I think there's a few factors at play here including grip (side of roads is often a bit dirty/gravel) and the fact that there's a "soft" launch with boost being limited in 1st gear. I think this is done mostly to protect the drivetrain.
                4.4s is not bad, limiting boost in 1st will cost some time, but preserve your transfer box. At 4500 rpm launch there was a lot metallic sounds (potentially unhealthy), that’s why I kept max launch at 4000rpm.

                In terms of turbo behaviour between an IS38 and hybrid IS38, max torque comes in around 500rpm earlier for the IS38 which may play into the times also, I think with some tweaking, better tyres, BP ultimate the hybrid should improve. On a roll you should have plenty of boogie in 2/3 & 4th gear.
                VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                • 0-100 in 4.6sec in manual mode with no launch control


                  2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                  2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                  2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                  2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                  - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                  • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
                    4.4s is not bad, limiting boost in 1st will cost some time, but preserve your transfer box. At 4500 rpm launch there was a lot metallic sounds (potentially unhealthy), that’s why I kept max launch at 4000rpm.

                    In terms of turbo behaviour between an IS38 and hybrid IS38, max torque comes in around 500rpm earlier for the IS38 which may play into the times also, I think with some tweaking, better tyres, BP ultimate the hybrid should improve. On a roll you should have plenty of boogie in 2/3 & 4th gear.
                    It's the fact that the boost is limited to 15psi in first gear and only really gets going in second. But I can live with that in terms of longevity, though I really would have liked to see what it was capable of with a "decent" launch. When it was stock it launched harder than what it does now

                    It would be interesting to compare an IS38 Tig to hybrid IS38 Tig. I'm still leaning towards bang for buck and ease of tuning with IS38 being the way to go as it gives a lot more flexibility in terms of going with off-the shelf tuning options rather than custom/dyno tuning options for hybrid turbos.
                    Last edited by tigger73; 18-07-2019, 11:49 PM.

                    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                    - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                    • Wow that’s one very quick car now, what do you recon it would pull down the 1/4 mile??

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                      • Originally posted by LJ1981 View Post
                        Wow that’s one very quick car now, what do you recon it would pull down the 1/4 mile??
                        It would be in the low-mid 12's most likely is my guess. It may do 11's but to get there it would need a more aggressive launch.

                        2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                        2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                        2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                        2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                        - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                        • That’s crazy quick for suv hehe

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                          • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                            It's the fact that the boost is limited to 15psi in first gear and only really gets going in second. But I can live with that in terms of longevity, though I really would have liked to see what it was capable of with a "decent" launch. When it was stock it launched harder than what it does now

                            It would be interesting to compare an IS38 Tig to hybrid IS38 Tig. I'm still leaning towards bang for buck and ease of tuning with IS38 being the way to go as it gives a lot more flexibility in terms of going with off-the shelf tuning options rather than custom/dyno tuning options for hybrid turbos.
                            You need to come down to Mel to do some 1/4 and roll racing with:
                            1. Me with stage 2
                            2. Melbourne Tiggy IS38
                            3. Razor Snail
                            Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                            • Originally posted by LJ1981 View Post
                              That’s crazy quick for suv hehe
                              Yes it is. Will surprise a few people for sure.

                              2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                              2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                              2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                              2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                              - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                              • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                                You need to come down to Mel to do some 1/4 and roll racing with:
                                1. Me with stage 2
                                2. Melbourne Tiggy IS38
                                3. Razor Snail
                                I thought that was what dragy was for... Dragy.eu - Measure Your Speed With Our New Accelerometer App – Dragy Europe

                                There's a few places that sell them locally including autoinstruct.

                                2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                                2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                                2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                                2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                                - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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