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  • Originally posted by Tom87 View Post
    Pretty much looks as I thought. If I am ever unfortunate enough to have a mechatronics failure warranty claim rejected due to ECU tune I'm going to take that fight all the way. The claim that the additional torque could damage the mechatronics unit is tenuous at best. By virtue of the very nature of mechatronics, the torque is transferred through the gearbox, diff, driveshafts etc. Not the mechatronics.
    Last edited by Tobes_WIR35; 25-02-2013, 08:23 PM.

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    • Just picked up a manual TDI and am very happy with it. Holds revs in each gear very simulate to my Amarok. Bought the wife a manual for her to learn / remember how to drive a manual so she is more comfortable in the Rok later.

      I did't mind the DSG, however the manual will always be cheaper to service and theoretically more reliable. Rightly or wrongly I did deliberately keep away from 7 speed DSGs.

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      • I've got a dsg in my r and my brother has a manual mk6 gti. As much as i love the dsg i have to admit I do look forward to taking his car out and throwing around the gear stick!
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        • It might be "grass is greener" scenario
          I just had my car serviced and had a loan Passat 2.0 TDI dsg, and was quite impressed with that in both sports mode, and with the stick flicked across into manual mode. In fact, it is not easy to drive in S because it breaks out into bucket loads of wheelspin! So much torque in that too, great drive really.
          The dsg gear changes are superb, so fast. But it still was annoying that it would change gears when it felt like. Still live my manuals the most you can have sedate and crazy, all by the most intelligent computer there is, your head Just a shame the clutch pedal travel is quite large on the vw, making dsg level fast up changes impossible...
          Last edited by tonymy01; 28-02-2013, 08:39 PM.
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          • I went with a manual in my GTI. The main reasons were that I like a manual when pushing the car hard, my other half had an A3 for a while and I thought the DSG was a bit strange and I was worried about he cost of repairing the DSG gearbox.

            The last point is pretty poor. Anything and everything could go wrong. I should have got a Toyota if I was truly worried. :p

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            • Just updating this incase anyone is interested - my previous post depicting that my mates DSG was dead turned out to be incorrect......its the engine ECU that has died.

              Dead ECU has been confirmed by European Car Centre in Newcastle after the car was towed there a few days ago. Got to get it towed to Audi/VW to get a new ECU installed and coded etc to his key/immobiliser. Old ECU had a Viezu tune too so that will now be lost and ill have to help him get another tune to suit the new ECU. Apparenty around $2,500 for the new ECU.

              Im off to eat my hat now....


              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
              Continuing on from my previous post below, my mates DSG is dead as a doornail. He is looking at approx $2,700 for a new mechatronics unit (from Harding Performance with a 3-4 week wait), DSG oil and filter change (needs to be done when replacing mechatronics despite having the DSG serviced about 1 year ago), and the labour component. It's going to be somewhere around $4,000 - 4,500.
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              • Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
                Just updating this incase anyone is interested - my previous post depicting that my mates DSG was dead turned out to be incorrect......its the engine ECU that has died.

                Dead ECU has been confirmed by European Car Centre in Newcastle after the car was towed there a few days ago. Got to get it towed to Audi/VW to get a new ECU installed and coded etc to his key/immobiliser. Old ECU had a Viezu tune too so that will now be lost and ill have to help him get another tune to suit the new ECU. Apparenty around $2,500 for the new ECU.

                Im off to eat my hat now....
                That's one of those situations where you'd be happy at first. And then just as pissed off.

                Any idea what contributed to frying the ecu?
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                • Is that because Viezu tie their code to an ECU (as opposed to a car) and refuse to reload for free or is it because you don't want to go back there?

                  Thanks for the update
                  Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
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                  • Holy crap! Is this a Golf R we're talking about? What year? No warranty due to ECU having been flashed?
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                    • How long (i.e.) kms are the DSG boxes expected to last under normal operation. I've only done 73,000km but extended warranty runs out soon. Have not had an issue with the gearbox so far (touch wood)
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                      • Originally posted by Ideo View Post
                        That's one of those situations where you'd be happy at first. And then just as pissed off.

                        Any idea what contributed to frying the ecu?
                        Nope - it just died. Was literally perfectly fine one minute and then dead the next.

                        Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
                        Is that because Viezu tie their code to an ECU (as opposed to a car) and refuse to reload for free or is it because you don't want to go back there?

                        Thanks for the update
                        Nothing against Viezu at all. The tune was applied to the ECU which is now dead (it didnt die because of the tune - let me make that clear). Its been running a tune for about a year with no problems. All i meant is that i will need to help him get a new tune from Viezu to suit the new ECU.

                        Originally posted by Machine View Post
                        Holy crap! Is this a Golf R we're talking about? What year? No warranty due to ECU having been flashed?
                        No no....its a MK5 GTi 2007 model im talking about. Sorry for any confusion. (my mates car).

                        Originally posted by OilBurna View Post
                        How long (i.e.) kms are the DSG boxes expected to last under normal operation. I've only done 73,000km but extended warranty runs out soon. Have not had an issue with the gearbox so far (touch wood)
                        Get it serviced every 60,000km and it should give you many miles of trouble free motoring. Plenty of guys in the MK5 section with 100+ thousand kms on their car.
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                        • Makes sense.

                          They say they will replace the tune if VW reflashes it to stock so he may be in luck.

                          A place at Warners Bay is doing Viezu sales now so he may be able to get something sorted if he doesn't have the hand ccontroller.
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                          • Make sure he keeps the old ECU they can be bought back to life

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                            • Ah no prob Lucas, when you said "another tune" I took that as a "different" one.
                              Last edited by Ryan_R; 19-03-2013, 09:07 AM.
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                              • Originally posted by Ideo View Post
                                Makes sense.

                                They say they will replace the tune if VW reflashes it to stock so he may be in luck.

                                A place at Warners Bay is doing Viezu sales now so he may be able to get something sorted if he doesn't have the hand ccontroller.
                                Yeh we will have to chat withViezu about it. He has the hand controller so worst case scenario he has to pay a few hundred to get the hand controller wiped clean and buy a new tune to suit the new ECU.

                                Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
                                Make sure he keeps the old ECU they can be bought back to life
                                WHAT? Really. Do you replace the circuit boards or something?

                                Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
                                Ah no prob Lucase, when you said "another tune" I took that as a "different" one.
                                All good Ryan. He is staying with Viezu but will just need a new tune from them to suit the new ECU.
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