Golf R Observations and Questions

[Ryan_R]

This might've been an interesting comparison between the Golf and Roc (not that I can understand what they're saying, besides 'Quattro' for AWD), but instead it shows more how bad they are behind the wheel

[AdamD]

Here's the Mk7 R:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...tml#post983210

As per the Mk7 thread, that's the R-line pack for the Golf TSI and TDI.

[Ryan_R]

Here's the Mk7 R:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f197/mk7-golf-r-revealed-89214.html#post983210

[jamesatfish]

You might be surprised how well the R goes, Sebs R last year beat every other Euro just because of the launch and it was only running the stock K04. He had lower mph of course but the relatively short distance still hurt the taller geared exotics

Yes I remember Seb's R - my old Gallardo was one of the Euros he beat.

Dead right on the launch being key - best I managed on the start surface last year was 5.6s 0-100. Hard to get a good launch when the start is gravelly, first gear goes up to 105kph and your clutches were built by Italians on a Friday afternoon...

Looking forward to running both new cars this year though - the clutches and gearing in the new Gallardo are much better for fast getaways and I'm already already seeing the huge potential of the R.

[parso_rex]

I'm certainly happy with the performance, even if the number itself can't really be taken to the bank. I wanted a sub-4.0s 0-100kph for the R when I bought it, so it looks like that box is checked.

The Gallardo is a claimed 3.9 0-100kph, but as it's RWD that is dependant on a dry, grippy surface and otherwise ideal conditions. In the real world the R will no doubt jump ahead of the Gallardo up to 100kph, but from there the lower drag and extra 100kW of the Lambo will put it back in front.

I'm running both cars at the Cooma 1000 later this year - proof will be in the results there.

You might be surprised how well the R goes, Sebs R last year beat every other Euro just because of the launch and it was only running the stock K04. He had lower mph of course but the relatively short distance still hurt the taller geared exotics

[jamesatfish]

That's a pretty impressive number James! Even allowing, say, an 8% margin of error for speedo inaccuracy and other factors, it's still around 4 dead. Your Gallardo's not that fast on a launch is it?

I'm certainly happy with the performance, even if the number itself can't really be taken to the bank. I wanted a sub-4.0s 0-100kph for the R when I bought it, so it looks like that box is checked.

The Gallardo is a claimed 3.9 0-100kph, but as it's RWD that is dependant on a dry, grippy surface and otherwise ideal conditions. In the real world the R will no doubt jump ahead of the Gallardo up to 100kph, but from there the lower drag and extra 100kW of the Lambo will put it back in front.

I'm running both cars at the Cooma 1000 later this year - proof will be in the results there.

[AdamD]

Back on topic - I observed this 0-100kph reading courtesy of the AutoPolar FIS unit in the R. Although it's based on the 'real' speedo it's definitely not a scientific result like a GPS logger or drag strip timeslip, and there was a slight downhill slope to help cheat the result, and I didn't turn around and re-run the test for confirmation, but I'm still happy with the number...

That's a pretty impressive number James! Even allowing, say, an 8% margin of error for speedo inaccuracy and other factors, it's still around 4 dead. Your Gallardo's not that fast on a launch is it?

[SilvrFoxX]

Re: Golf R Observations and Questions

We also change our cars regularly, closer to 3 years though. I had an option all lined up but SF knows what happened to that (let us just say that bosses with nice cars don't appreciate them).

I then seriously had the AMG hatch in the scopes but after driving one (yes, was lucky enough to do just that OS very recently), I'm now looking back at VW yet again as much as I wanted to move on.

Despite all the "issues" they have, VW deliver exactly what I want in a vehicle with the R.

I really hate myself for saying that !

I can entirely understand your post, though there are quite a few options to explore if you were really at that point of changing. Juzt a case of going and trying them all. Even then you may go back to VW but you would know why

[jamesatfish]

We also change our cars regularly, closer to 3 years though. I had an option all lined up but SF knows what happened to that (let us just say that bosses with nice cars don't appreciate them).

Will probably be swapping my wife's C63 Estate for something new in the next 6 months - can keep you in the loop if you're still interested in going down that path...

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Back on topic - I observed this 0-100kph reading courtesy of the AutoPolar FIS unit in the R. Although it's based on the 'real' speedo it's definitely not a scientific result like a GPS logger or drag strip timeslip, and there was a slight downhill slope to help cheat the result, and I didn't turn around and re-run the test for confirmation, but I'm still happy with the number...

[Ideo]

How about a 125i? Great car to drive.

[zoomda]

We also change our cars regularly, closer to 3 years though. I had an option all lined up but SF knows what happened to that (let us just say that bosses with nice cars don't appreciate them).

I then seriously had the AMG hatch in the scopes but after driving one (yes, was lucky enough to do just that OS very recently), I'm now looking back at VW yet again as much as I wanted to move on.

Despite all the "issues" they have, VW deliver exactly what I want in a vehicle with the R.

I really hate myself for saying that !

I know the a250 sport is a step down but the parts of it that are the same as the AMG turned me off it. That crappy comand console was jut horrible, everyone would of thought i had stuck an aftermarket satnav in. It wasn't touch screen, the gear selector on the right stalk is weird and it just didn't feel as premium to drive like a VW does. The 250 looks very nice and it looks premium but the drive just didn't match the looks for me.

[brimway]

For me, they are hard to hate

[Candyman]

Why?

The whole "hate VW" thing at the moment plus I really wanted to try another brand but nothing comes close.

I miss my Subies but they have lost any of the appeal they had (new vehicles)

I steer well clear of "hot hatch" cars like ST's and Merganes (try hard to the extreme and not something I want as a daily/tourer)

I wanted to love the new AMG but found it wanting.

So, it is back to VW.

[brimway]

....I really hate myself for saying that !

Why?

Nope, the S3 is still overpriced for what it is. Also, I might get flamed for this but I find the R a better design in looks.

The fact that the R looks "just like another Golf" is a real plus in my books.

Agree

[Candyman]

Will you look at the S3 Candyman? Price gap to R has been dramatically reduced and arguably a better looking prestige car IMO

Nope, the S3 is still overpriced for what it is. Also, I might get flamed for this but I find the R a better design in looks.

The fact that the R looks "just like another Golf" is a real plus in my books.