Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[triode12]

Yep, I've never denied the Renault Sport cars have good handling.

I even admit to liking the exterior look of the Clio 200 Gordino, and the Megane Trophee Cup 250 WhateverTheNameIsIt'sTooLongEdition in "Yellow" (eek! Yellow!).

But I don't like their engines, and whilst I no longer find their interiors offensively bad, they're just unremarkable. Turbo-charged engines in the next model gives hope. There is also hope with the fact that their interiors have been increasing in quality. We'll see what happens in the future. But for now... just not what I'd pick for the roads.



I agree, but then that should be obvious. Polo > Golf > Passat etc
But the Polo is nicer than anything else for its money, and even nicer than some more expensive cars, such as the Renault Sports. Hence why I'll look on with great interest about the Audi S1, and even how much of APR's Polo GTI kit can be fitted to the Audi A1 Sport. I know that some people are not a fan of the look of the A1, but there is now 4 of them out in the car park at my work and 3 of them look awesome imo

Audi A1 - not a fan of it's look....Fiat 500 wannabe. Audi stuffed up on the design of this one.

[dave_r]

I only hope that with VW just about to overtake Toyota as the largest car manufacturer there's still some passion in making exciting cars for us ordinary folk. The way the new Passat and Jetta look worries me I have to say...

I agree with that, they really could use the R division to create some more unique models and they'd sell for sure. Whether they do or not is another story, let alone if they ever reached our shores.

Audi A1 - not a fan of it's look....Fiat 500 wannabe. Audi stuffed up on the design of this one.

Yeah I don't like it one bit. The best part about it is that if they do make a super A1, there is a small chance VW can share the bits to make an "R" polo. I'd upgrade the missus 77TSI no problems.

[adzy]

Focus Rs and Megane are highly praised for their handling,YET:
Focus RS is only a couple of tenths faster than the Golf R around Wakefield.
The much lauded Renault Megane is slower than both of them around a track that favours handling....
Just amuses me to see the AWD/Haldex knockers bag the Golf's setup but the stopwatch doesn't lie.That plus you can't turn the ESP off for track use.
End of the day they're all pretty good with bugger-all difference in lap time.

Renault Megane RS Mk III vs VW Golf R - FastestLaps.com
As you can see above, the 250RS is a better handling car as the Golf R accelerates over 400m 7 tenths quicker yet the 250 makes this gap up and even ends up quicker on some circuits. There was a comparison that Wheels done on the small twisty haunted hills layout where the Megane was quicker than Golf R, WRX and Rs Focus... Motor aint the bible but I still want my copy!!

[elephino]

I also wasn't a fan of the "black plastic" until I actually got it.
But all the reasons you list are valid.
Those were all on my list, in addition to the "AWD" in general. Still after 7 months of owning the Golf R the AWD is the biggest "love hate" part of the car for me. It's awesome for the traffic-lights GP, but beyond that, I just still don't see its benefit. Not that I feel FWD is better. RWD is though

I had no issues with the AWD as I'd previously owned an Impreza RS (MY02) and the VW one is a much smarter system.

[sabloke]

hey Corey, you gotta admit this Clio interior looks waaaaay better than any GTI or R


soundproofing so bad that it sounds like this:

[Ideo]

Look at that. The dash plastic is so cheap it has already disentegrated.

[D_Mag]

It's French. I'm surprised it hasn't burst into flames.

[sabloke]

No, bursting in flames is a Lambo by Audi specialty

[MkVIGTI]

Or the Ferrari 458

[Capercat]

Those plastics look worn already haha, the Clio isn't meant to be a pretty car, but rather a fun roadworthy go-kart chuck-about. One word to describe it is fun. Definitely not an all rounder like the golf's. They're an expensive toy IMO expect some rattles! when one rattle disappears another emerges haha.

[Mariani]

Test drove a Clio RS before buying my Cooper S. Mad car!

[Mi16 Man]

Those plastics look worn already haha, the Clio isn't meant to be a pretty car, but rather a fun roadworthy go-kart chuck-about. One word to describe it is fun. Definitely not an all rounder like the golf's. They're an expensive toy IMO expect some rattles! when one rattle disappears another emerges haha.

Hmmmm....my Golf GTI has more rattles than my old 206 GTi180!

If the frogs made a 5dr hot hatch, I would be behind the wheel in a flash!

[sabloke]

As I said before, have done over 20,000km over the last 15 months and the car is rattle free. In fact, it reminds me of an AK47-no bull approach to purpose, focused and effective, just like Kalashikov's masterpiece

[Capercat]

As I said before, have done over 20,000km over the last 15 months and the car is rattle free.

you're lucky!

[mfl]

As I said before, have done over 20,000km over the last 15 months and the car is rattle free. In fact, it reminds me of an AK47-no bull approach to purpose, focused and effective, just like Kalashikov's masterpiece

Not all Golf's are created equal, after 18 months and 30,000km, I just wait for the rattles to come and go, its the variety that impresses.