Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[hentaiboy]

But what is the difference that takes an optioned R into the LCT bracket

Adaptive chassis control
Alloy wheels (Talladega Black) 19x8” with 235/35 R19 tyres
Rear View Camera (RVC) with static guidance lines
Bluetooth® phone connectivity
Dynaudio Excite premium audio system 300W
Media Device Interface (MDI)
Motorsport style front seats in ‘San Remo’ Microfibre / Vienna leather with individually heated front seats
Electric adjustment for driver’s seat, 8-way
Electric glass sunroof

Sounds like luxury to me!!!

[aussiegtidude]

Didn't the LCT originally align with the price of a Holden Statesman or something? I thought that was how the Government worked it out.

[hentaiboy]

Sorry to say it Finance but a SLK230 is the car a head hairdresser would drive

"The Mercedes SLK has became the transport of choice for everyone with a tanning salon, all female television presenters, and Nicole Kidman — although hers, it must be said, has a 6.5 litre V8 under the bonnet.

The SLK is girlie central, bought only as an accessory to make your hair look good rather than rip it out in lumps by the roots".

- Jeremy Clarkson

[Corey_R]

Didn't the LCT originally align with the price of a Holden Statesman or something? I thought that was how the Government worked it out.

It doesn't really matter how it was originally calculated, because since it's introduction it's only increased from $57,000 to $57,466 in the 11 years since the GST and LCT were introduced. So that's a 0.8% increase in 11 years. How much has inflation been since that time? If we assume that inflation has averaged 3% per year, that's 38.4% since the introduction...

So clearly the LCT is just another money grab from the government rather than a legitimate tax on luxury items (lets not even get into the fact that no other luxury item is taxed specifically...)

[markwid]

That said, my next car will be a BMW, I just can't stay away and giving up my 325 is going to kill me.

OT.
Likewise, I had the 325 before. Bad experience with BMW's insistence on Run Flats - lost me there. Should at least give us option to use normal tyres, i.e. have a spare tyre in the boot.

I wouldn't go back to BMW for now - I think they have lost their way. Merc is on the cards as I get older - I prioritize comfort a bit higher than power.

[hentaiboy]

So clearly the LCT is just another money grab from the government rather than a legitimate tax on luxury items

A fully optioned 'R' isn't a luxury item? Try telling that to a chippie driving his Great Wall Single Cab

[aussiegtidude]

It doesn't really matter how it was originally calculated, because since it's introduction it's only increased from $57,000 to $57,466 in the 11 years since the GST and LCT were introduced. So that's a 0.8% increase in 11 years. How much has inflation been since that time? If we assume that inflation has averaged 3% per year, that's 38.4% since the introduction...

So clearly the LCT is just another money grab from the government rather than a legitimate tax on luxury items (lets not even get into the fact that no other luxury item is taxed specifically...)

Oh yeah, wasn't debating that. I was just wondering how they originally came up with a number. I wasn't sure if they plucked it out of thin air or not.

[Maverick]

A fully optioned 'R' isn't a luxury item? Try telling that to a chippie driving his Great Wall Single Cab

The same chippie who gets into his HSV ute on the weekend (no LCT) and tows his luxury speedboat (no LCT) to the coast?

Maybe we'd be better off taxing the 2nd, 3rd and so on cars along with truly luxury items like boats, helicopters and planes? But we're back at the same argument where someone doesn't own a car but has a boat or helicopter and why should they get taxed? The LCT should get the flick but it'll never happen under a labor government.

[Corey_R]

Yeah - the Henry Tax review called this out. Said that the LCT is at the same time hypocritical and ineffective and called for it to be scrapped... oh well... it's not like politicians to take advice their given...

[Maverick]

Oh yeah, wasn't debating that. I was just wondering how they originally came up with a number. I wasn't sure if they plucked it out of thin air or not.

Probably related to the price at the time of the most expensive Aussie luxobarge!

[Mountainman]

But how much has the price of cars increased in the last 11 years? It seems to me that the base price of econo stuff has been sitting around $13,000 forever and stuff like the GTI or WRX has been around the $40,000 mark since they were released. So why would the luxury tax need to move? Car prices haven't moved with the CPI.

[Ideo]

But how much has the price of cars increased in the last 11 years? It weems to me that the base price of econo stuff has been sitting around $13,000 forever and stuff like the GTI or WRX has been around the $40,000 mark since they were released. So why would the luxury tax need to move. Car prices haven't moved with the CPI.

Yeah, but I'm spending more on cars now so it affects me.

Therefore it must change.

[dave_r]

Yeah, but I'm spending more on cars now so it affects me.

LOL that is how I see it as well. Now that I can afford the "luxury" bracket, I demand they piss off the tax.

Bad enough being unmarried with no kids and therefore being considered by the communist ****s running the country right now who think I'm "rich" so lets just rape them with all the taxes so 50% of the country can get handouts and have no ambition. <rant end>

[Whistler]

LOL that is how I see it as well. Now that I can afford the "luxury" bracket, I demand they piss off the tax.

Bad enough being unmarried with no kids and therefore being considered by the communist ****s running the country right now who think I'm "rich" so lets just rape them with all the taxes so 50% of the country can get handouts and have no ambition. <rant end>

Ouch! Yep, better off with the conservatives. If only they had been in power for ten years recently they would have revoked the tax!
Oh, hang on...they were!
All govts are too scared to remove this tax (read: can't afford to) And those "commies" shot down a proposed lib legislation about 6 years ago to raise the tax

Though there's a strong argument for raising the threshold now, Live with it...It's here to stay.

Now, back to the original thread...GTIs are for girls. Ha ha
Go figure.

[Fab_R]

LOL that is how I see it as well. Now that I can afford the "luxury" bracket, I demand they piss off the tax.

Bad enough being unmarried with no kids and therefore being considered by the communist ****s running the country right now who think I'm "rich" so lets just rape them with all the taxes so 50% of the country can get handouts and have no ambition. <rant end>

Well said......