DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

[pumped]

I've Shown the local dealer pictures of the actual dripping
Pictures of the oil on the floor & they even noted that it leaked whilst they were checking it and still they came to the conclusion of it being "wax"
I will put a tray under the car when i get home to collect the oil

They told me that driving it isnt an issue but i'm not comfortable with the conclusion
Will try and book it in again today but im feeling i may have to find another dealer

Wouldnt wax go hard again after dripping?

[MurphyTheElf]

I think it's pretty clear they are fobbing you off. Wax would indeed harden once it cooled, and the volume of liquid you are seeing can't be explained away by a wax coating. Your best course of action is to put your concerns in writing via an email to the dealer, to which, if any repairs need to be done, VWA can be referred. A simple fix now could prevent major damage occurring in the future and I think VWA would be very interested that a dealer is ignoring such an obvious sign of a problem.

[weewilly]

probably all that salt air Willy.

my problem pales to that of 'pumped'.... What are you doin' near a PC, should be out getting your yayas out in the new beast!!! go the three doors!!

[weewilly]

I've Shown the local dealer pictures of the actual dripping
Pictures of the oil on the floor & they even noted that it leaked whilst they were checking it and still they came to the conclusion of it being "wax"
I will put a tray under the car when i get home to collect the oil

They told me that driving it isnt an issue but i'm not comfortable with the conclusion
Will try and book it in again today but im feeling i may have to find another dealer

Wouldnt wax go hard again after dripping?

I'd be using the 'WAX' as lube on their collective ***holes. what game are they playing??

[REXman]

This is a good point dave_r. The "revving out" slipped gear issue is one thing. But some of these comments about clutch slip going around corners are starting to border on the "TC/ESP" cutting in and confusing the DSG + the driver

You definitely see what you want to! Take your blinkers off man.

The DSG appears to be slipping. At mostly at very normal and slow speeds.

For the records, it happened again last night to me at an intersection with a roundabout in my area on the way home! So car would have been warm/oils warm.

[Corey_R]

Well REXman, I haven't experienced it, and I was directly replying to another member who believes he's experienced it but was also questioning whether it was clutch slip or ESP... so no blinkers involved really, just questions...

In any case, if it is clutch slip, should be pretty easy to identify via logging with VCDS.

[Sir_GTI]

I have noticed, especially when its cold, that the DSG makes a few loudish "clunking" sound when I go from R to D. Its a very noisy engagement.

Even when warmed up, still makes the same noises, although not as loud, but still audible when going into 1st gear.

Service centre said that it was a normal sound, and nothing to be concerned about .............. just like the rattle ........

[cme2c]

I may have had a clutch slip in my mk6 118TSI or perhaps a 7speed DSG problem, it happened a couple of times and each was during sharp cornering and accelerating at the same time. I heard banging noise and sounded like the gear couldn't get engaged or something. When I released the accelerator then push it again gently then it went ok.

Have no issues or whatsoever with my Mk6 GTI DSG gearbox

That sounds more like ESP. It will reduce the power and if there is still a problem, engage individual brakes. Having provoked a Honda into engaging the ESP, that's just what happened.

but just because it sounds like ESP doesn't mean it was in your case.

[dave_r]

In any case, if it is clutch slip, should be pretty easy to identify via logging with VCDS.

If you can suggest what fields to monitor, I'll happily go out this weekend and try to repeat it!

[Corey_R]

The best person to ask would be logger. He has done logging on the 7sp DSG box several times and provided answers to us here about what it's doing when moving from take-off and shifting etc. I just can't remember which thread it was in to find the details....

[hooba]

I'd be using the 'WAX' as lube on their collective ***holes. what game are they playing??

Well said.

Could you please name the dealer who is fobbing you off?

[dave_r]

I just can't remember which thread it was in to find the details....

Never thought I'd read that LOL

edit: Is this what you were talking about? http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112...tml#post551846 (Post #29)

[Corey_R]

Yeah that's one of the posts! Does the spreadsheet give you any idea about what you'd need to monitor in the DSG?

[dave_r]

Could take a stab using the clutch path/position along with accelerator position, speed, rpm and gear selected along with some temps. I think you can get 12 fields at a time. If you look in the Labels dir where you installed VCDS, open file "02E-300-0xx.lbl" in a text editor and that will show you all possible fields to log. The 2 clutch path fields logger used aren't available so not sure what to select there.

Though from memory I think every time I tried to do advanced measuring on my DSG the VCDS application would crash. I had to use the normal measuring blocks screen and select the predefined groups when I did the temp logging. Never tried another laptop to see if that was the issue or not, nor follow it up with Ross-Tech.

[REXman]

Well, unfortunately, it did the slippage again.. twice!! Once in the city, once on the way home.

Nearly all the times so far.. it does it in slow speeds, usually when it is going to\from 2nd gear. And then it just slams the redline. 1st time tonight in the city was a bit iffy but lucky it was only around 11am so not many cars around.

So its now at the stage though.. where I have to get it checked.

I have done 3400kms.