DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

[johnw]

My experience is actually in that order, Problems/Complaints/Dislikes/LoveIt [when it was fixed]

I got the Passat about 3 weeks ago and during the test drive it was all fine (not fully warm up), stupid me didn't test drive again before I decided to buy. The first day I got the car it was all jerky and thumping on takeoff and being the first DSG I've driven, I thought it was the way DSG was suppose to be. After more driving I thought this is not right, it's got problems.

Then I complained to the dealer the next day and they say they'll look at it. And during the week or so that it took to diagnose and fix it [turned out to be mechatronic replacement] I started to dislike DSG thinking that it's not what I expected and i might have got a lemon etc.

But since it's been fixed, I REALLY love it. Coming from driving slush box and manual, I really think that DSG is the perfect inbetween. I drive it with the mind set of a manual and there's no complaints [don't expected it to behave like a slush box, be more careful with the thottle etc].

The only one concern I have is, how long will THIS mechatronic unit last..........

[Jayray]

This is not a DSG characteristic.

I think you may have misunderstood my comments in relation to hooba's article reference. One of brilliant things about DSG (when it works, and I must admit that I am yet to experience it not working) is that you can down change with a finger flick and have the engine ready and loaded (in turbo rev range or not) for a lane change. Only on the rarest of occasions (after 7 odd years of DSG manufacture) can I believe a solenoid is responsible for a lurch or a stall when trying to put pedal to the medal. It does stand to reason (my reasoning, take it or leave it) that "perceived" DSG Problems are due to consumers expecting standard auto behavior. As johnw states...

My experience...I drive it with the mind set of a manual and there's no complaints [don't expected it to behave like a slush box, be more careful with the thottle etc].

[hooba]

Having driven a manual in Sydney for the last 20+ years it was a tough decision to go for the DSG, but after taking a DSG through the paces during a few test drives I ponied up for a DSG GTI. Having driven it all of it a minor 100+ k's in traffic in Sydney I would agree with this comment. if you want to accelerate quickly and change lanes... change down gears first. You want to get the revs loaded first before doing a quick lane take or similar taxi manouver.

I can understand why you're a convert. Maybe next time for me, in the meantime I'll console myself with a [spin taken from the same article] "rugged and durable design which offers unparalleled levels of tactile feedback and driver engagement to create a truly invigorating driving experience."

[Rockman]

Well, its been an interesting weekend.
My wifes 2009 Golf TSI broke down. The engine starts, and revs normally, but no matter what gear you place it in, the car does not move.
We tried turning the car off and on, and still nothing. VW assist sent out the repair man - who shock his head and said "it will have to go back to the dealer", so they sent a tow truck to pick it up.

The car had a new clutch fitted at 12 months, and a replacement engine at 18 months. And of course there is still the turbo/supercharger/squeal.

It will be interesting to see what VW says tomorrow.

[ian]

As stated before ive had my Golf back to Barlo 2 times after it was serviced at Camden GTI where Bea told me the Metrotronic unit was in need of replacement,i had the cars soft ware upgraded no help and VWA and VW Germany didn't know how to fix it ,
So i wrote a letter to VWA explaining the circumstances of the cars troubled gearbox,
Yesterday VWA rang me for further information and told me she would look into it for me ,well today VWA rand and told me new parts have now been delivered to Barlo to fix my car but couldn't say what the parts were , just hoping its a new metrotronic unit ?

Barlo just rang and its a metrotronic unit being installed on the 30/31 march and there giving me a loan car ,unheard of .

[Brendan_A]

Well, its been an interesting weekend.
My wifes 2009 Golf TSI broke down. The engine starts, and revs normally, but no matter what gear you place it in, the car does not move.
We tried turning the car off and on, and still nothing. VW assist sent out the repair man - who shock his head and said "it will have to go back to the dealer", so they sent a tow truck to pick it up.

The car had a new clutch fitted at 12 months, and a replacement engine at 18 months. And of course there is still the turbo/supercharger/squeal.

It will be interesting to see what VW says tomorrow.

Hi, Sorry to hear about your troubles. Is your Golf a DSG or a manual gearbox?

[dave_r]

CBF going back but add me to the list of people who've had that DSG issue like Rexman!

Was cruising home the same way I do every day, not giving it any stick. Casual left hander, brake a bit then cruise as turning. DSG was def in N and revving its tits off with me going no where. Lifted off and resumed in 3rd or 4th like nothing ever happened. Bizarre!

Only time it's done it in ~6000kms

[DRL]

I just had a DSG revving moment myself.

I was driving on the M4 stuck doing 70 in a 100 zone... I changed lanes and buried by foot to jump in a gap. Golf is now coasting & revving... brown trousers moment & definitely not in gear. I then lifted off completely and put my foot down about 75%... DSG then grabbed a gear and I was off.

One thing I did notice is that I felt a click when I changed lanes. Upon investigation when I got home (having a spare set of pedals helps) I found there is a switch that will click when the pedal is at 100%. Not sure if that had anything to do with the revving.

I will now be dropping a few gears or grabbing sport before changing lanes. Car has done 900kms. Apart from that one incident the DSG has been fantastic.

[Corey_R]

Heh, that's the first case I've heard of that occurring on a 7sp DSG... thus far the reports were only on the 6sp DSG, and even then only on the R

[Brendan_A]

Heh, that's the first case I've heard of that occurring on a 7sp DSG... thus far the reports were only on the 6sp DSG, and even then only on the R

I reported pages back about an Audi A3 7DSG that I hired in Tas free reving.

[zbeasty]

Mine are becoming more frequent. I didn't have any issues in the first month or so then in the last couple of weeks its happened 4 times. Might just have to leave it in S as I've only had the issue in D.

[REXman]

Well I just copped it again tonight coming home from UNI.

Bit disappointing because up until now I have dismissed it as only being a software issue.

The reason I say this is because it always occurred at slow speeds in D.

Well today in manual mode, going from 2nd to 3d, i changed gears at around 6000rpm and it just slipped and banged and finally grabbed a gear.

So I have decided that now it is serious enough to ask it to be fixed.

It is an issue for some people and next person who says it isnt is getting a roundhouse.

[ozgti]

Heh, that's the first case I've heard of that occurring on a 7sp DSG... thus far the reports were only on the 6sp DSG, and even then only on the R

Mine did it while stationary. Had to restart the car to get it to work. Posted up a few months ago.

Mine has now been shuddering in 1/2 when accelerating after coasting. Doing my head in. Between this, the rattle when I think ithe clutch disengages or something and the stalling..VW can't replicate the stalling, but they should be able to replicate the shudder. I sooo wish I bought a manual now!

[Corey_R]

It won't go into gear from stationary when it thinks that it's overheating. It's different to not engaging a gear whilst accelerating. Combined with shudder, it probably indicates some hardware issue. Anything from a failing sensor to something more serious.

[jrgti]

Love the DSG, the paddle shifts and the sound it makes when changin gears at high revs.

I don't like the head of the DSG gear stick as I have the MY10. MY11's have a different/new design which is the same as the Polo GTI's I think.