DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

[Stelex]

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The other thing which I haven't yet tried (or maybe I have and my brain is just on so used to the DSG being 2nd time around), is that if your foot is on the brake and you tap the accelerator, for the next "2 seconds" you'll have immediate response from the accelerator after you've taken your foot off the brake. The diff with this is you don't need to roll your foot off the brake because the tap of the accelerator has already partially engaged the clutches etc.

Oh man, you also need to enrol to TAFE to learn how to take off with DSG.

I think the problem with taking off is not in engaging the first gear at all. The problem is with the second gear.

When you press accelerator the first gear engages well and straight away. The problem is - it switches to second gear immediately, so you end up with no pull for about a second or two. This causes an enormous problem when merging the tight traffic, e.g. round-abouts. If you press accelerator a touch more your car just runs away from you and you get to slam in the back of the car in front of you.

It is a serious design flaw, no doubt about that. Any other automatic car I have ever driven (at least 50 of them) had no problems with this, Golf VI with DSG has a massive problem. It so sucks that my next car has no chance on earth to be a DSG.

[Brendan_A]

I had a similar experience to what you guys are talking about with a hire car. It was an Audi A3 TSI 7DSG. I was driving along at low speeds, went to accelerate and the engine just free revved and then it finally engaged. It was quite scary to be honest. Only happened once in the 8 days.

My Wife's DSG Jetta also did a similar thing a year ago. Taking off at traffic lights, gets half way through the intersection and engine free revs. Mean while a truck nearly runs into the back of her. I had it checked out the next day but no faults showed. It hasn't done it since. My Wife hated the car for some time after that. Was worried it would do it again but she has gained its trust back. Just hope it don't happen again and end in a disaster.

[Corey_R]

Oh man, you also need to enrol to TAFE to learn how to take off with DSG.

I think the problem with taking off is not in engaging the first gear at all. The problem is with the second gear.

When you press accelerator the first gear engages well and straight away. The problem is - it switches to second gear immediately, so you end up with no pull for about a second or two. This causes an enormous problem when merging the tight traffic, e.g. round-abouts. If you press accelerator a touch more your car just runs away from you and you get to slam in the back of the car in front of you.

It is a serious design flaw, no doubt about that. Any other automatic car I have ever driven (at least 50 of them) had no problems with this, Golf VI with DSG has a massive problem. It so sucks that my next car has no chance on earth to be a DSG.

Can't say I have that problem. The electronic accelerator a decent range of motion that you have decent control over the DSG so that it reacts that way you want it to (well, the way I want it to). *shrugs*

[citywok]

I'm over this so called revolutionary gearbox. My car behaves like it's possessed most days, lurching between gear changes, shuddering going around corners because it refuses to drop into second gear, holding 1st gear going up hill until it redlines, occasional loud bangs coming from the engine bay on gear changes and clutch slipage. I've been to VW to ask them to check out the box and it was all too hard, the mechanic went for a spin with me and we were able to replicate a dangerous reversing up hill trait and I was told that was normal. VW have to do a better job with this gearbox, because in 2 years time if they don't, I'm buying a Chinese car.



118 TSI DSG sport pack option, jerkiness was free.

[Corey_R]

Aaah, but the Japanese and Chinese are working on their own versions of the DSG now! Whilst the Nissan version in the Skyline GTR has been well received, the Mitsubishi one in the Evo X has been slammed for being worse than a VW DSG when they're faulty (as in, the Evo version working properly, is worse than a faulty VW one). Just imagine how bad the Chinese versions may end up! hehe

Anyway - if you don't think that it is working as it should, go to another VW dealer and get a second opinion. You've got the 7sp DSG which I'm nowhere near as experienced with as the 6sp. I know it's not as smooth as the 7sp, but I wouldn't expect lurching between changes nor bangs to occur in normal operation.

[REXman]

Yeah - the is the same issue that a few of us have had with our R. I've still only had it once though.

REXman, have you had it again? Did you talk to the dealer?

Hey Corey,

No such luck yet man. I havent had the day or two needed to get this done.

It hasnt done it again, and I took it for that solid run with my mates GTR.. no slippages during or since.. Maybe it just wants WOT for about 30 mins and the DSG to be HAMMERED?

Now, if it just cooks me some ****en eggs we'll be sweet!

[weewilly]

I think I previously gave the 'D' mode a 4/10, I revise that down to a 3.....

I felt almost the same, maybe 6/10 in D mode. HPSOV, we spent 3500 bucks on good sound, over 12K on options, we should consider Stage 1 a necessity. Budget for $1700 post sale or arrange during and include in the lease. I've been using for a couple of weeks and the R is quite simply, a different car. The DSG in D is now 9/10. quick, responsive - aggressive when i choose. S mode is manic.
Corey, I wouldn't call the gear slip an 'issue' quite yet.

[REXman]

Your car missing gears going through a round a bout and not being able to get back in gear till your half way down the street, is a bit strange to me.

It's an issue, definitely.

just not a major one cause no one has reported a prang as a result.

[weewilly]

not an issue, yet, as we on this forum are but a very small % of those who have bought R's and not all of us R owners in this forum experience major gear slippage. how many times did you crunch gears with the manuel you once owned and did that crunching cause any issues to the tranny years later?? for me it was heaps and never...... DSG has been designed to take a pounding, believe me... a slip here and a thud there will not do any damage to the gear box. and like yourself and me, 'IT' doesn't get through the gears as smoothly as we would like, every now and again.

[hooba]

I'd consider intermittent and random loss of drive or missing gears an issue, and I'd be getting it looked at. There is a difference between a the driver making a mistake with a manual box and an automated box making the mistake - they're not designed to make those kind of errors. I've had a DSG since 2005 and never experienced it, and if I did it would reduce my confidence in the car.

[weewilly]

I'd consider intermittent and random loss of drive or missing gears an issue, and I'd be getting it looked at. There is a difference between a the driver making a mistake with a manual box and an automated box making the mistake - they're not designed to make those kind of errors. I've had a DSG since 2005 and never experienced it, and if I did it would reduce my confidence in the car.

I've never experienced the slippage. and even with those that have it is a rare occurrence. But by all means, if happening, get it looked into. As an experienced DSG driver, whats your overall opinion?

[hooba]

It's not the slippage that I'm referring to, it's the box deciding to give you neutral whilst the car is on the move that would worry me.

The 1st gear shunt / delay that everyone notices the first time you drive a DSG is no problem, you simply get used to it and learn to adjust.

[Angryman]

I picked up my dsg equipped r yesterday and I have yet to notice any of the mentioned nonsense in this thread

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[Pacmaniman]

No problems with my DSG to date - enjoying the gearbox so far

My only small complaint would be the HUGE difference between D and S mode.

That said, when I want to drive more aggressively I ignore S mode and take control of the gear changes.

[wooduck]

It's not the slippage that I'm referring to, it's the box deciding to give you neutral whilst the car is on the move that would worry me.

The 1st gear shunt / delay that everyone notices the first time you drive a DSG is no problem, you simply get used to it and learn to adjust.

Happened to me today. Approaching a corner on trailing throttle and just as I turned in the car went into neutral then it grabbed 3rd and it then seemed to over rev for that gear.

Wooduck