A Bunch Of Merged "My New Car / Order" Threads

[elisiX]

Why are we specifying Asians here?

Everyone's a tight ass at times - there's just a time and place IMO.

I'm not Asian btw.

[obiwan]

Life is way too short to have every transaction you make with people as stressful as this. At the end of the transaction you want to be able to shake hands with each other and have a genuine grin on your face with neither party secretly thinking "what an a***hole".

I have no interest in wanting to deal with people in business or socially who want to "squeeze every cent...period".

[elisiX]

Look there's no question here about the fact that you have to push dealers at times - its more so about to what extent.

They are dodgy pricks really - and will lie to get a good deal for themselves.

I generally determine if they're someone I want to deal with anyway quite early on. Nothing worse than a cocky know it all.

[lawsy82]

[QUOTE=ozvino;444703]Agreed, you have to look at the big picture; I could have driven around Melbourne playing dealers off against each other and screwed another $1000 out of the deal - for me time is money, so I wsnt interested, not to mention after sales support. Ive had a couple of things come up with a car we bought last year and the dealership did it for free (accessories I wanted fitted post delivery), not to mention accessories that were sold to me at trade price

The other issue with screwing the dealer down so hard is that with a popular car like the GTI the car order may end up getting allocated to someone who paid more (and represents more margin for the dealer) and your order can slip down the priority list....... Until you get the VIN (usually a week or two before production from memory) you really dont have any certainty as to where you sit in the production schedule

I can tell you that dealers dont like names and prices posted on forums for obvious reasons, so Im surprised the guy said to post his name and sales prices here....

So if your happy experiencing an extra long delivery, paying top dollar for post sales parts and accessories, not having loan vehicles around when you need them, along with being relegated down the list when it comes to service......yeah, you got the best price



Great point above - I love getting good deals too, but coming on a forum - and bragging about how a dealer lost money, and posting he's details is not very impressive IMO.

Great point about delivery times, this guy will be LAST on the list for delievery, and this dealership will get him back one way or another - And sell at a lost? WTF I dont think so.....

The price he has acheived is about the right price currently anyway - Alot of VW dealers are waiving on roads and stamp duty ATM, so thats like $3000 just there, before u even start negotiating the vehicle/extras etc....

[elisiX]

lawsy its easily the best price i've seen posted on this site so far. By about $2k.

[clfive02]

reading this thread hurts my head, it looks like you got a fantastic deal though! salespeople aren't exactly the type of people to trust, they might have sold the car at a loss but it just doesn't make sense. Why would they spend hours to secure a deal that they don't actually want?

[elisiX]

If it were end of month I probably wouldn't think twice about at, but seeing as its mid month I am surprised they dropped their pants so desperately. lol

[Mk6 GTI]

hehehhehe funny thread.............the main point is you got what you wanted wdong and had the balls to take it to the edge which most guys here obviously don't or felt they didn't need to.

well done.

You should receive your car by early May mate. Just make sure to not let you gf put hello kitty all over the dash or you'll be baned from this board : ) jk!!.

hahaha! Too funny!

[Corey_R]

Based on the fact that unlike NSW, VIC pays 5% stamp duty on the ENTIRE price if the cost is over $45k, I put the drive away price at somewhere around $56,900. This would mean a ~$8,150 discount, or ~14.3%

I can't see it mentioned whether a corporate discount was used or not. But regardless, that's definitely the best deal we've seen.

Although I agree with others that I wouldn't want to start the customer/dealer relationship for such an important purchase on the terms that wdong has done. With people screaming at each other and punching desks (if that isn't made up for 'dramatic effect'), then you can imagine that the dealer wouldn't be that willing to give you much time later on. You'd only need to drive into the parking lot and the dealer would see you and already be in a bad mood before you told him why you were there

[Lams]

is the guy's name really Alex Lamb
dammit!

this thread's turned into a bit of an asian generalisation thread...

I keep going back to the same VW dealer, the salesman I used to deal with is now fleet sales manager so he can look after me. I don't even need to bargain with them, they give me a price, I know it's the best price. I do think personal service is more important than getting every last dollar out of them...

[Maverick]

now i am really worry about the delivery date, i need this car before June, and will they call me back and cancel the deal??

If there is one thing you can be assured on it's the delivery date won't be April (is the promise of delivery before you wedding in the contract?) and if they receive 10 cars in the delivery with yours that you will be the last to have his car prepared.

[roy]

no idea why u guys would think the dealer would treat the op worse than any other customers. just because they can get more profit from others? if they agree the deal it means they earn the money and it's still an acceptable price. the only difference is they make more or less profit than from other customers. but they have profit anyway and the op is still their customer!

maybe the dealer wouldn't like to put him on top of the priority list but i don't think he will be the last. if that it's just not professional.

anyone can pay any reasonable price for both sides, dealer and himself. and someone can pay more to get more 'priority',etc.. but for others maybe it's just waste of the money. so everyone has his/her own choice.

[elisiX]

I'd love to see a copy of the contract showing this price tbh.

When I sit back and think about the whole situation it just sounds wierd.

I am very tired now, me and sales person were fighting about the deal, we punched table, and he yelled to me my price pissed him off.

Can anyone honestly see this happening? lol

[Dubya]

Couple of points:

While there's nothing wrong with bargaining hard, some people consider it poor form to drive a bargain beyond the point of "good faith".

When that point is crossed is a matter for judgment and I am sure I have crossed on occasions myself.

But I never disclose the price offered by another dealer* (they would not want the same done with their quote) but merely make it known I have a good price and ask for the best they can do.

However, if it were late enough in the negotiation I might disclose my "walkaway" price (which would be fair dinkum) whilst keeping one accessory or option I wanted worth ~$500 or less up my sleeve. If they did not match my price I might say I agree if they include the particular option/accessory.

I guess if you keep it civil, and the parties are contracting freely from reasonably equal bargaining positions, you can't blame the purchaser if the dealer accepts a low offer.

Seulement mon deux centimes.

*Dan Murphy's and First Choice excepted.

[EndlessMKI]

with many different types of combinations in options for GTI orders I'm wondering why the ppl who didn't bargain as much think the cheaper drive away prices will somehow have their car delivered later?

you see that's the beauty of sales wrapped in abit of service. it lets the buyer who pays a premium assume all sorts of wonderfully rosey things.

AHhahahahaha.