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  • #76
    Originally posted by kryten2001 View Post
    At the risk of getting into a pi**ing contest, it wouldn't. The tig is a great little SUV, but it's a long way from being anything semi-sporty.

    Anything that weighs 1500+kg is going to need a lot more than 200kw. A tuned K04 GTI with weight stripped out of it (1250-1300kg) will leave one for dead.

    Anyway I don't even know why I'm arguing, it's a pointless and fruitless exercise... Clearly a 200kw SUV costing 40k or less is going to easily compete with some of the $100k pirellis that some owners (myself included) own. That AWD and adjustable rear seats is going to haul some butt!

    Do the math... 240kw, 1250kg, low COG, tuned suspension. Tiggy will be left for dead on the straights and will be left sitting on its side going around corners.

    Anybody who has a 'proper' sports car will be laughing their backsides off at this. A golf is pretty far from being a sports car, but to say it's comparable with a tiggy is just plain crazy.
    Amen brother!

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    • #77
      $100k is an insane amount on a pirelli, but see your point. If you can lower a Tig you can lower a Golf the same amount and will be better.

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      • #78
        wow you spent 100k on your pirelli!!!! that is insane! i need to pick your brain.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by G-rig View Post
          $100k is an insane amount on a pirelli, but see your point. If you can lower a Tig you can lower a Golf the same amount and will be better.
          Yeah it's crazy money, but I'd do it all again. There's not much under $100k that I'd personally prefer to have.

          That's why I get a bit defensive when I hear people with 40k tiggys sledging them off. Quite frankly, very few people have driven a $100k pirelli (or even a $60k pirelli for that matter) - so they should quietly reserve their comments until they do.

          Granted my GTI isn't the same as a standard K03 GTI, but I'd still have a bog stock one over a Tiggy any day.

          But I do admit I have a bias against baby SUVs. They do everything, but nothing particularly well.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by den525 View Post
            wow you spent 100k on your pirelli!!!! that is insane! i need to pick your brain.
            Yeah I don't think I'm the only one though, there's a few floating around.

            It doesn't take much when you start going at it. Some of those parts are really expensive. Brakes and suspension will see the better part of $10k gone for a start.

            But those two things, done right, will take the car to a very different place from the stocker. I'm sure the other forum members who have done it can chirp up, but I'm talking about cornering at speeds that will flatten your eyeballs.

            Monster power is great, and I've spent a fortune on mine maximising power, but the real fun in these things is ludicrous cornering and braking.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by kryten2001 View Post
              Yeah it's crazy money, but I'd do it all again. There's not much under $100k that I'd personally prefer to have.

              That's why I get a bit defensive when I hear people with 40k tiggys sledging them off. Quite frankly, very few people have driven a $100k pirelli (or even a $60k pirelli for that matter) - so they should quietly reserve their comments until they do.

              Granted my GTI isn't the same as a standard K03 GTI, but I'd still have a bog stock one over a Tiggy any day.

              But I do admit I have a bias against baby SUVs. They do everything, but nothing particularly well.
              I'm sure its fairly fast, but I'd get a 135i or S3 and do a retune and it would be better (esp than modding my R32 as well).
              Last edited by G-rig; 10-03-2010, 10:04 PM.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by G-rig View Post
                I'm sure its fairly fast, but I'd get a 135i or S3 and do a retune and it would be better (esp than modding my R32 as well).
                Yeah 135i's are OK (mate at work has one), and the new S3 is nice too. That was a really close contender, but I really wanted to get a 'definitive Mk5' coz I love them so much.

                My first choice was actually Lotus Exige (now that's a proper sports car), but it just wouldn't fly at home. So when I see people quoting Mk5's as impractical, I gotta laugh. Ever seen inside one of those things?

                Alas my middle aged backside would never fit into one......

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                • #83
                  I don't fear the Tiguan.
                  .: MK2 Golf GTI [FWD R32 Project]:.

                  MK4 R32 parts for sale - click here

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by tinto View Post
                    I don't fear the Tiguan.
                    I was wondering when you were gonna chirp up.

                    Great T shirt slogan right there.

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                    • #85
                      TIGUAN! With looks only a mother would love...

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by triode12 View Post
                        TIGUAN! With looks only a mother would love...
                        I don't mind the look of them, in fact I reckon most VWs have it in the bag compared to their rivals. If I were in the market for a car like that, I'd certainly buy one over a RAV4 or Honda or whatever.

                        But that doesn't alter the fact they will tip over if you go to fast in one.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi8BRIaYWBk

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                        • #87
                          It's funny how VW people argue about power and weight, Tinto's Pirelli is his daily driver (not sure about Kryten's) but I'm sure it would eat 99% of the other VWs on the street and track

                          The comparison in regards to the Forester GT against the WRX is a very good example by the way.
                          MKV GTI Pirelli

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by bwen View Post
                            It's funny how VW people argue about power and weight, Tinto's Pirelli is his daily driver (not sure about Kryten's) but I'm sure it would eat 99% of the other VWs on the street and track

                            The comparison in regards to the Forester GT against the WRX is a very good example by the way.
                            Yeah mine is/was a daily driver, but I just bought a Mazda3 to bring me to work so I don't have to work the relli so hard.

                            Now it sits in my shed alongside my 1198S.... Boonta.

                            The argument is silly. Granted mine cost a bucketload, but to compare these things to a tiguan as a 'sports' car is just stupid. I'd argue a Forester Vs WRX is a closer matchup than a Pirelli and a Tiguan.

                            Have these tiguan guys ever driven a hypo K04? Good lord.....
                            Last edited by kryten2001; 10-03-2010, 10:47 PM.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by kryten2001 View Post
                              Yeah mine is/was a daily driver, but I just bought a Mazda3 to bring me to work so I don't have to work the relli so hard.

                              Now it sits in my shed alongside my 1198S.... Boonta.
                              Now that cures the need for speed doesn't it! I don't want to drive the Pirelli hard either, going back to building a dedicated track car

                              I wanted a simple 600RR but partner didn't let me So I'm back to building my 9500rpm redline honda-pig
                              MKV GTI Pirelli

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by bwen View Post
                                Now that cures the need for speed doesn't it! I don't want to drive the Pirelli hard either, going back to building a dedicated track car

                                I wanted a simple 600RR but partner didn't let me So I'm back to building my 9500rpm redline honda-pig
                                yeah I'm a bloody sucker for it. It took a while to get the missus used to the idea of a third car (along with the ducati), but it was either the Mazda3 or a Hilux SR5.

                                I just use the relli on the weekend now. I have to commute a fair way into work each day, so I didn't want tens of thousands of kays put on the VW.

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