Dear Kamold
I have a 2011 Golf MK6 TDI with factory Dynaudio, RNS510 Dab .Reverse camera , Colour MFD and park assist .
is it possible to fit a Discover Media in my car with all the features above working correctly ? I am in the UK and see a lot of units on Ebay but unsure it they will work with my car and which model to go for .
Regards
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Proper CP matched PQ Discover Media is quite involved and difficult.
I have mine done but it's more as an academic exercise and for completeness.
Wouldn't recommend it when there are easier and cheaper ways to do it.
Either hardware or software patch.
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^^^ @Kamold: hmmmm.......... old VCDS instead of OBD2 version, clone VCDS instead of genuine VCDS and hacked hex5F module instead of FAZIT enabled retrofit!!
OP has certainly made lots of $ savings! Alas there must be a cost for all these benefits - I share your concerns!!
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I think you'll need a newer VCDS to be able to access address 5F.
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Thanks for your help! Last question, if I replace the Gateway with the new version 7N0907530BC, can I access the 5F module also with my old VCDS? Or support to 5F was introduced with the latest versions VCDS?Leave a comment:
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Yes you can use the OBD Dynamic camera they work well.
A proper VCDS cable will be able to code address 5F without replacing the gateway with 7N0 version.
Instrument cluster software needs to be I think 04xx or above.
The pop normally should only be heard when you connect diagnostics to 5F. Maybe the speaker coding is not correct.Leave a comment:
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@kamold thanks for your reply!
Yes, I use an old version of VCDS, bought years ago to activate the led rear lights.So also with this Gateway it is possible to access the address 5F?
At this point I have two options:
1- Buy a new VCDS or ask someone to do it for me.
2- Leave the RVC option active on the MIB and purchase this kit: RVC OBD Dynamic
Right?
As for the clock, I think replacing the instrument cluster is not easy, and I don't know how to match it with the immobilizer.
Out of curiosity, which instruments cluster is needed to work with the mib?
The slight "pop" I hear from the woofers when I get into the car, from what can be caused?Last edited by Lele; 18-09-2020, 09:14 PM.Leave a comment:
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Your bad clone of VCDS is the problem, not the gateway in terms of being able to communicate with it.
Clock won't be correct because the instrument cluster software is too old. Only solution is install a newer cluster (this involves immobilizer matching).
For park assist you need to disable RVC low in byte 19 of 5F coding, and also disable in adaptations:
ENG122229-ENG117710-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A -> not active
ENG122227-ENG117496-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc -> not active
ENG122227-ENG117498-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_over_threshold_high -> not active
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Hi to everyone! I recently retrofitted a Composition Media (5K7035200K) on my Golf 6 MY10 (replaced the RCD510). The unit has the hardware patch for the CP and in fact everything works except the voice commands.
However I have some small problems, I try to be brief.
1- The Composition Media has the ParkPilot active, but I do not have it installed in the car, so when I put the reverse gear the screen goes black and an error comes out after few time.
Unfortunately with the VAG I can't reach the 5F module (not even manually), I suppose the problem is the Gateway too old.
Are there other solutions, or am I forced to change Gateway?
2- The Composition Media clock does not synchronize with CDB and always remains at 0:00 (sometimes it appears as 6:28 and disappears after 1 second).
Is the problem always with the Gateway?
However the outside temperature is displayed correctly and on the CDB I see the song titles, radio channels, etc...
3- Sometimes, from the car speakers I hear a "pop": I notice it when I get into the car, shortly after opening the door. Has anyone had similar experiences?
Here is the scan with the VAG if it can be useful:
ThanksCode:Thursday,17,September,2020,19:33:45:13314VCDS Version: Release 908.0 Data version: 20090911 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chassis Type: 1K0 Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77 VIN: 01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000 03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000 09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000 15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000 16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000 17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010 25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000 42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000 44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000 46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000 52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000 56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000 62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000 72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000 77-Telephone -- Status: Not registered 0001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB) Labels: None Part No SW: 03L 906 018 HW: 03L 907 309 R Component: R4 2.0l TDI H20 9978 Revision: 42H20--- Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 00190012042400080000 Shop #: WSC 02203 264 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018 003014 ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018.rod No fault code found. Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: None Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AH HW: 1K0 907 379 AH Component: ESP MK60EC1 H30 0107 Revision: 00H30001 Coding: 143B400D092400FF281202EA901B0042340000 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BS HW: 5K0 907 044 BS Component: Climatronic H15 0709 Revision: 00003001 Coding: 0000000002 Shop #: WSC 00028 790 00209 ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006 ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW36.rod No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 C HW: 1K0 937 086 C Component: BCM PQ35 M 103 0575 Revision: 00103 AG Coding: 46180A3A90251AC040080081040089E443211588524D8160648000200000 Shop #: WSC 02203 264 95663 Part No: 1K1 955 119 F Component: Wischer 27011 21 0512 Coding: 009795 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 D HW: 5K0 959 655 D Component: AirbagVW10 037 0606 Serial number: 003FKD043VJM Coding: 00003132 Shop #: WSC 01383 790 00302 ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01011 ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_VW36.rod No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CF HW: 1K0 953 549 CF Component: J0527 056 0111 Coding: 0000532 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001 Part No: 3C8 959 537 D Component: E221__MFL-TK6 H06 0022 Coding: 00000226 Shop #: WSC 00000 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb Part No SW: 5K0 920 870 G HW: 5K0 920 870 G Component: KOMBI H03 0305 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 170900 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00023 ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052 ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD HW: 1K0 907 951 Component: J533 Gateway H07 0112 Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 280110F1002845 Coding: E9807F06000202000002 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001 3 Faults Found: 01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 004 - No Signal/Communication Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01110100 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 168 Mileage: 139862 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2120.14.10 Time: 20:01:13 01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 000 - - Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100000 Fault Priority: 1 Fault Frequency: 42 Mileage: 139862 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2120.14.10 Time: 19:57:12 02874 - Control Module 2 for Central Convenience (J773) 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100100 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 208 Mileage: 139862 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2120.14.10 Time: 20:16:29 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: None Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H03 0305 Serial number: Coding: 000000 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 D HW: 5K0 959 701 D Component: Tuer-SG 009 2139 Coding: 0000180 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl Part No: 1K0 909 144 J Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70 3001 Revision: 00H17000 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 D HW: 5K0 959 702 D Component: Tuer-SG 009 2139 Coding: 0000180 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 56: Radio Cannot be reached ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 C HW: 5K0 959 703 C Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 1012545 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 C HW: 5K0 959 704 C Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 00028 028 1012545 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 77: Telephone Cannot be reached End ---------------------------------------------------------------------Leave a comment:
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Yes, initially i thought doing the same, just replace the standard thermal 'foam', but then i discovered there is a 1mm gap, at least on my G unit.
Gap is just too big for any paste to efficient transfer any heat, so i decided to use (graphite) thermalpads to compensate the big gap.
Any thin 1mm piece of copper would be fine as well, as long both sides have any thermal paste to improve the termal conductivity.
I don't know if other models have the same 'gap'.
The fan should not be needed indeed, i just add it, because i had it laying around my desk here anyways, and there was room for it.
On some very hot days, it could help, as there isn't much passive cooling in that area anyways.Leave a comment:
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Yes the thermal 'paste' they use is more like a terrible type of foam.
Any time I have to open a unit up I scrape it all off and replace with CPU thermal paste such as Arctic Silver.
Haven't ever needed to add a fan.Leave a comment:
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Recently i (VW CC gen2) upgraded my factory fitted RNS510 to a new MiB2 PQ G version.
Although everything works fine and as intended, i noticed the radio seems suffering from some very small hickups, random stutters in the menu animations, map drawing, especially zoom in/out is sometimes less fluent.
It's not very noticeable, but i see quite a difference in performance when the unit is just fresh started and how it performs after 30 minutes. it. So for me, it only happens when the unit is running for a while.
Initially i thought this was just a software flaw, something on the memory management that will become better after updates. And i just ignored it.
Last week, after a long drive, i removed the unit from my car as i wanted to connect a USB extension.
I discovered the unit was hot, very hot even. Could not hold the unit in my hands longer then 10 seconds, that hot.
So i decided to open the unit, to see what kind of cooling is in there.
Well... As for my G unit, it was even worse then i thought. On the bottom plate, there are 3 IC's (including the SoC) that are around 1 mm away from the metal housing, between there is some substance that i would rather call peanut butter, as it won't transfer thermal that much.
So i decided to improve the chip thermal transfer. Removing that yellow/orange 'peanut butter' junk, replacing with a 1mm graphite CPU thermal pad, and to make sure the contact will be most optimum, i also added a very thin layer of a high-end thermal grease ( Noctua NT-H2 ).
Also added this grease on the sound amp IC.
And as the unit is almost empty from inside, i installed a 5mm laptop CPU fan, that just fits perfectly on the air holes of the unit, so it will blow out all the internal heat.
Reassembled the whole thing, back into my car, and guess what.. Even after hours of drive, the unit is no more slowing down !
In my conclusion, before, my unit was getting so hot, the internal SoC needed to do thermal throttling, reducing its performance.
It's a relative easy modification, recommended to the ones who are experiencing degraded performance after a while as i did.Leave a comment:
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Phone and nav are present in the mfd, it’s the audio menu that is no longer there. When I’m connected with CarPlay and I’m using DAB I can’t see on the mfd which station I’m listening to. So I have to push the radio button to check the station and then back to CarPlay.Originally posted by kamold View PostLeave a comment:
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