DNS series head unit (new generation dual core RNS-510 alternative)

[Hotbmwm3]

Everyone thought I was crazy when I told the forum about my bad customer experience. One of the major posters on here told me "Sandy" contacted a moderator and that's why all my posts were deleted, even those not related to this group buy.

Knowing what I do now about his actions towards me and the delays (the wedding was over a month ago) and broken promises I wouldn't trust "Sandy"

How do you know he will continue to support the product through the forum?

It's not worth the risk in my opinion

[moda]

Everyone thought I was crazy when I told the forum about my bad customer experience. One of the major posters on here told me "Sandy" contacted a moderator and that's why all my posts were deleted, even those not related to this group buy.

Knowing what I do now about his actions towards me and the delays (the wedding was over a month ago) and broken promises I wouldn't trust "Sandy"

How do you know he will continue to support the product through the forum?

It's not worth the risk in my opinion

*shrugs*

Not trying to make anything into any controversy or whatever, like it seems you want to (???), but any dealings i've had with Sandy have been fine, fairly good/quick to respond and nice guy to deal with IRL. Young professional (older than me though, i'm guessing), but he's been around on the forums for a while, and has a fairly decent rep otherwise.

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, its an Audiosources product, whether it comes from AS directly, where you get pretty limited support, not in their native tongue (which is extremely typical of any chinese company - horror stories of people dealing with Eonon and other similar companies etc), or it comes from Sandy, the product is the same.

I send him a pm on the 10th and previous emails have gone unanswered.

It may be that he's just wanting to give everyone time to reply to his PM? IDK. My reply went unanswered, but that was fine since it was just a simple 'yep hook us up brah'.

*shrugs*

[moda]

Hello,

i´m new here. My name is ahmethan from germany. I also buy a DNS 810 last year with the old canbus. I make an investigation to using the second core in wince 6. I found this option to using dual core in wince 6.

CE4ALL Windows CE Team Blog: Using Multi/Dual Core Processors with Platform Builder

This was the link to the blog which contains this option. Maybe dkn, moda or asa572 communicate this option to the technicians of audiosources. Sorry for my english. I´m from germany.

It would be interesting to see if Audiosources have implemented this or not. Might have to pass this on.

My understanding, though, is that WinCE6.0 just doesn't have the proper support for modern dual core processor architectures. You have to recognise that it's an 8 year old operating system, so yea. Later versions of CE would be much more well suited to this hardware, but there just isn't much use of it for various reasons (expertise by programmers, and probably the availability of the software in china, would be my 2 main guesses). To be honest, Android is much better suited, now, than WinCE. I'd much rather see Audiosources build an Android version of the DNS, than try and adapt WinCE7/8+. Doubt that will happen any time soon, though.

[ahmethan]

It would be interesting to see if Audiosources have implemented this or not. Might have to pass this on.

My understanding, though, is that WinCE6.0 just doesn't have the proper support for modern dual core processor architectures. You have to recognise that it's an 8 year old operating system, so yea. Later versions of CE would be much more well suited to this hardware, but there just isn't much use of it for various reasons (expertise by programmers, and probably the availability of the software in china, would be my 2 main guesses). To be honest, Android is much better suited, now, than WinCE. I'd much rather see Audiosources build an Android version of the DNS, than try and adapt WinCE7/8+. Doubt that will happen any time soon, though.

Hi moda,

you have right with your opinion about the newer OS. But now we have wince 6 as OS in our DNS. Its just a method to get wince 6 to work faster. Then we can use IGO without any problems.

[DkN]

Most of the Audiosources staff including the manager and my sales contact are away at a South African car expo and will return tomorrow. I will then wrap things up with a view to closing the group buy this weekend. I need to confirm that all my return units (for which AS will replace with new production units to form part of this group buy) are received and credited for the group buy order. Last I checked they were slowly trickling in from HK, several units at a time, because of customs restrictions. There are about 10 in total.

As for the private messages, I have been sending group messages out to everyone about the group buy and asked everyone to confirm their orders. Naturally I now have a pile of them in my inbox and most are just confirming what they have ordered. I plan to work through them and cross-check with my invoices and send everyone still in the group buy a final updated invoice so there is no further confusion. But that takes time. Again, I have said many times, until that is all done and I actually place the order with Audiosources, anyone can pull out at any time and get full refunds.

polski_ogurek it seems I have missed you in the list of people that I PM'd. I will PM or email you shortly but as I said anyone with the pre-production unit can have their unit replaced.

As for your posts in my thread Hotbmwm3, a moderator contacted me and asked me if I wanted to do anything about them. I said I was fine with them because I am happy to publicly respond as I don't have anything to hide, however I can see they were crowding the thread so he can do whatever he thinks is fair. There is no point in escalating this but I'm happy to PM you who the moderator was if you want. In any case this is a thread in the Audio section and not my sponsored section, so if a moderator deleted your posts then there was obviously good reason to do so regardless of who initiated it.

[subieboy]

Been using the latest firmware since it came out,

Seems to work fine with no hangups, it does 1 or 2 funny things while the nav is routing you somehwere.
1) It wont let the stereo options show up on the MFD, however arrive at destination or cancel and it re-apears.
2) with parking sensors enabled and traveling below 10Km/h, it does not show up on the radio display where the sensors are detecting objects, especially in reverse.

[Hotbmwm3]

Has anyone in the group buy received the new units? Any feedback?

[moda]

Has anyone in the group buy received the new units? Any feedback?

Last I heard order has been submitted and they're in production. Should be wrapped up before christmas hopefully. Guess it depends on how fast they can get the production run done and shipping.

As has been the case for a while, working great, still some little software niggles here and there, but nothing show stopping. In fact, haven't really noticed anything really in the latest firmware. Keen to get the new CANBUS module though

[lucas__]

Hello.
I have a dns-810 for 2 weeks ....


v39 upgrade
can v2.27.


1- brings rca front, behind and sub .... but no .... REMOTE Amplifier.
I had to do as MacGyver ..... for sound.
failing to solve noise throttle speakers.
2-steering wheel keypad works the other way round advancement with left button ..... ...... I back right button.
3-ipod ... not me .... all my folders appear messy ... but usb working properly ... folders ... and within their songs.
4-drive the selection of the 5 options only works for ops ....... not for cue.
Typically used all the doors ......... but not all have parking sensors.
in my case I have a golf ...... but a passat logo on cue.


5-dvd slow to move songs ------ 7 seconds.


other works pretty well ......
usb ok (but from the wheel pulse 1 Time passes ..... 3 songs)
rds ok
ipod .......
reversing camera ok
tdt hd ok ... even on the road.
great bt
gps ok
Sygic ok
automap ok
navigon ok
igo primo ok.


I am told that there will be more updates

[dame2010]

Been using the latest firmware since it came out,

Seems to work fine with no hangups, it does 1 or 2 funny things while the nav is routing you somehwere.
1) It wont let the stereo options show up on the MFD, however arrive at destination or cancel and it re-apears.
2) with parking sensors enabled and traveling below 10Km/h, it does not show up on the radio display where the sensors are detecting objects, especially in reverse.

Hi subieboy,
what year is your car, which navigation system you use.

[swong]

Any ETA on these units?
Have they been produced and left China yet?

[dame2010]

I will strongly advice everybody to stay away from this units, they are all full of bugs and I think they engineers like they called them are knowing a sh.t, all the stuff they advertised is not working, radio is not showing RDS on MFD, or in the device, its placed in virtual buttons???? wtf. Playing songs from SD/USB is great, as any other MP3 player right??? MFD is not showing the names of the song id3 tag, only Track 1, Track 2....., power on time is 0 sec, i admit is booting very fast, but when you must reinsert the key to lock to make it run what is use of boot time, I mean every morning I sit in my car and surprise device is not running, so i turn off my car, take off my key from lock and reinsert it again to gain power to device, and its frustrating cause i need to do that every time i leave my car for 2+ hours. This device have a Bluetooth, yeah that right, I don't want to be a totally negative person here, so I will skip review of Bluetooth . I been lucky so i purchased new model , what a joke, Professional bmw car dvd manufatuer, device cost me around $600 with the custom fees. Now believe me its better for everybody to buy used rns 510 or any Zenec device instead of this sh.t. It's not worth the time you spend to make it run, and i spend a month, and change 3 firmware, i have new firmware btw. it's 3 day old . I assume they just change the date cause I don't see any progress. But guys, look at the bright side if you can see.

We all know about smallest issue of all. IGOOOOOOOOOO

[dhparker]

I appear to have bricked my DNS810 - it won't boot up after a firmware upgrade. I contacted audiosources and they suggest I send it back - but that will cost me about $150.

Anyone have any ideas if I have any other options? Is there any way I can flash anything else onto the unit to make it workable without having to send it back?

Dave

[Goobz]

Can you redo the firmware upgrade again? Did the first upgrade go as normal or did it freeze halfway at all? Did you turn it off halfway through the flash process?

The only way I've seen to brick these units so far is disrupting (either you or a failed flash) the BSP (coloured text screen) flash at the start. As long as you can get that part to flash theoretically it should be recoverable unless something is damaged.

I would be interested to hear how yours happened.

[moda]

I will strongly advice everybody to stay away from this units, they are all full of bugs and I think they engineers like they called them are knowing a sh.t, all the stuff they advertised is not working, radio is not showing RDS on MFD, or in the device, its placed in virtual buttons???? wtf. Playing songs from SD/USB is great, as any other MP3 player right??? MFD is not showing the names of the song id3 tag, only Track 1, Track 2....., power on time is 0 sec, i admit is booting very fast, but when you must reinsert the key to lock to make it run what is use of boot time, I mean every morning I sit in my car and surprise device is not running, so i turn off my car, take off my key from lock and reinsert it again to gain power to device, and its frustrating cause i need to do that every time i leave my car for 2+ hours. This device have a Bluetooth, yeah that right, I don't want to be a totally negative person here, so I will skip review of Bluetooth . I been lucky so i purchased new model , what a joke, Professional bmw car dvd manufatuer, device cost me around $600 with the custom fees. Now believe me its better for everybody to buy used rns 510 or any Zenec device instead of this sh.t. It's not worth the time you spend to make it run, and i spend a month, and change 3 firmware, i have new firmware btw. it's 3 day old . I assume they just change the date cause I don't see any progress. But guys, look at the bright side if you can see.

We all know about smallest issue of all. IGOOOOOOOOOO

Not my experience at all, sounds like you're using an old firmware version, what version are you running? Otherwise sounds like you've got a defective unit, not sure what you're going on about with half your post anyway?

We've been through the iGo thing hundreds of times before, its a piece of crap, don't bother. Sygic works perfectly for me.

Can you redo the firmware upgrade again? Did the first upgrade go as normal or did it freeze halfway at all? Did you turn it off halfway through the flash process?

The only way I've seen to brick these units so far is disrupting (either you or a failed flash) the BSP (coloured text screen) flash at the start. As long as you can get that part to flash theoretically it should be recoverable unless something is damaged.

I would be interested to hear how yours happened.

Only other way to brick it is if you flash Old CANBUS firmware on New CANBUS unit, or vice versa. That will brick it.