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  • #61
    Ah that's right, I keep forgetting about the red calipers because I've got a 90 personally I'd get the Panther's.

    As long as the two reds are close in tone, then it would look alright I guess I'm a stickler for these kinds of small things, eg I don't like white wheels on white cars if the shades of white don't match/complement. Hence why I swapped the black roof rails, they just wouldn't match unless I got black rims.

    I do like the shape of those wheels though, I think they would look good while your car is moving.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
      A lot of us are.. and without wanting to be sexist I think it's the closest a man will come to understanding why a woman needs a wardrobe full of shoes that to us all seem the same.

      I must have spent 10+ hours looking at wheel pics - before determining to just stuck with what I had last month.
      I get it! yep...good accurate comparison....
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Tigger View Post
        FIN RS wheel...
        Hmmm, 18*8.5, they may pose a problem - it's at the limit of what you can stretch a 225 tyre over
        If you go ET45 to keep the same inner clearance the wheels will stick out and if the car is lowered they may rub the guards
        The Golf GTI boys run ET35 pulling the wheel very close to the strut - this addresses all rubbing issues and helps with the scrub radius
        Last edited by Martin; 07-02-2013, 11:55 AM.
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        APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
        APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
        Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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        • #64
          we don't have hydraulic power steering, its all electric assisted - which contributes to the 'dead' feeling more European cars now have.

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          • #65
            Right - our Mazda 3 has both, feels wierd at the transition point between electric and hydraulic
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            APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
            APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
            Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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            • #66
              its both?

              sure its not an electric pump pressurising a hydraulic system instead of driving from engine RPM?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Martin View Post
                Hmmm, 18*8.5, they pose a problem
                If you go ET35 to keep the same inner steering dynamics the wheels will stick out and if the car is lowered they may rub the guards
                The Golf GTI boys run ET35 pulling the wheel very close to the strut - this addresses all rubbing issues but may have an impact on steering feel (not that we have much feel these days with both hydraulink and electric power steering)
                You don't necessarily want to maintain the same inner clearance. If you add all the extra width to the outside then The steering will be a bit odd (been there/done that).
                My original wheels were 6.5" ET50.

                My next wheels were 8" ET35 which were 3.5mm closer to the strut & poked 33.5mm further outward. This was fine on the back but up front it was out past the guards a few mm. I didn't have any clearance issues but I didn't like the look & the amount of crap being thrown up the side of the car. Steering felt "weird". Poor turn-in, etc. This may have been alleviated with some toe adjustment.

                I'm currently running 7.5" ET45. These are 7.5mm closer to the strut (still lots of clearance) than set #1; 17.5mm extra poke. They fit nicely within the guards & the steering feels good.

                Are the RS 18x8 wheels ET50 or ET45? 18*8 ET50 is the same inner clearance as 18*8.5 ET44; 18x8 ET45 is the same inner clearance as 18*8.5 ET39
                Last edited by brad; 07-02-2013, 11:04 AM.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by brad View Post
                  You don't necessarily want to maintain the same inner clearance. If you add all the extra width to the outside then The steering will be a bit odd (been there/done that).
                  My original wheels were 6.5" ET50.

                  My next wheels were 8" ET35 which were 3.5mm closer to the strut & poked 33.5mm further outward. This was fine on the back but up front it was out past the guards a few mm. I didn't have any clearance issues but I didn't like the look & the amount of crap being thrown up the side of the car. Steering felt "weird". Poor turn-in, etc. This may have been alleviated with some toe adjustment.

                  I'm currently running 7.5" ET45. These are 7.5mm closer to the strut (still lots of clearance) than set #1; 17.5mm extra poke. They fit nicely within the guards & the steering feels good.
                  Definitely have to take this into account especially if these weird specs adversely affect safety / handling.

                  Side note: Whoa.

                  That is the exact situation I'm in (6.5" ET50)

                  More or less the same specs I was thinking of getting (8" ET39, 8mm towards strut and 30mm outward (see difference on willtheyfit.com))

                  And a real-life solution and review (18" or 17" x7.5 ET45). Cheers Brad for sharing your experiences!
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                  • #69
                    The 8" were 17" diameter. The 7.5" were back to 16".

                    I don't think safety was compromised, I just didn't like the dulled turn-in.

                    I'm thinking of going back to 17" again (with 235/45*17 tyres). It will be either 17x7.5 ET45(+-3) or 17x8 ET40 (maybe 45 - need to get the tape measure out).

                    I have a really great excell spreadsheet (107kb) for rims & tyres. I'd post it up but this forum doesn't allow attachments.

                    I'd still like to know what the ET is on the OEM 18" rims
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by brad View Post
                      You don't necessarily want to maintain the same inner clearance.
                      If you add all the extra width to the outside then The steering will be a bit odd (been there/done that).
                      Yeah - if you're adding more than an inch to the wheel width doing that all on the outside is an issue because it impacts the scrub radius
                      MacPherson strut equipped vehicles usually have a negative scrub radius.
                      Negative scrub radius decreases torque steer and improves stability in the event of brake failure.
                      The greater the scrub radius (positive or negative), the greater the steering effort and the more road shock and pivot binding that takes place.
                      When the vehicle has been modified with offset wheels, larger tires, height adjustments and side to side camber differences, the scrub radius will be changed and the handling and stability of the vehicle will be affected.
                      So in fact, pulling a 8.5" wheel closer to the strut is beneficial (I've edited my previous post)


                      Originally posted by brad View Post
                      Are the RS 18x8 wheels ET50 or ET45?
                      The stock RS is 18*7.5 with ET51 or ET52 (can't remember)

                      18*8 fits perfect on the Octavia, looks great and drives very well
                      Does not throw crap down the side of the car
                      8" wide rims put a little stretch into the 225 tires
                      (8.5" is the maximum wheel width you can put 225 tyres onto)

                      In my mind the only reason to go with 8.5 rims on the Octavia is to clear after market big brake calipers
                      (but you can find 8" wide rims that do that also - but you are limited on choice of spoke pattern)
                      2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                      APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                      APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                      Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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                      • #71
                        When I bought my 2007 model the RS was 18*8. I remember because it was one of the advantages over the Golf GTI I was considering..... then I realised that 99% of my driving was commuting on the M5 & bought the 1.8TSI instead.

                        So 18*8.5 would need to be ET40.

                        Is funny, I really keen on some lightweight 17"s & all the 2nd hand stuff on forums at good prices is 19"s or really wide 18"s.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Martin View Post
                          The stock RS is 18*7.5 with ET51 or ET52 (can't remember)
                          I thought stock Octy rims were 18x7.5 ET45!!
                          Not sure what my Panthers are, though... But I know they're 18x7.5!

                          @Tigger- Go for Detroits.

                          RE: Wheel choice... Ever since I got my first car (admittedly only in 2009) I've been looking for appropriate aftermarket wheels. It just so happens by chance I was browsing the Tempe Tyres site one afternoon and saw the Panther Flite style rims. Went to the shop, put them against the car and they looked great. Now they're mine.
                          Now I totally understand the Chick vs. Shoes dilemma... But it doesn't make it any less frustrating. ;p
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
                            Now I totally understand the Chick vs. Shoes dilemma... But it doesn't make it any less frustrating. ;p
                            Agreed - Man vs. Rims sounds like a show I'd watch.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by cbay View Post
                              Agreed - Man vs. Rims sounds like a show I'd watch.
                              I'm up for that, although if we are to follow the format of the real show (v Food I'm thinking) then clearly we need to be looking for something in the 50 inch range:

                              Biggest rims in the world: Cutlass on 50s - Tampa Bay sports car | Examiner.com

                              I'm biased but I'm still curious as to how the Detroits would turn out.

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                              • #75
                                OK, so I found the ones I liked...BUT...they were $850each!!!!

                                So I walked out sad, and didnt even take note of the name of them so I would not be tempted to sell a kidney....
                                2018 Ralyee Green RS wagon. Fully optioned.
                                Previous vehicles:2015 Volvo V60 Polestar (my one detour from VW/Skoda!)
                                2013 Platin grey RS wagon / 2012 White Polo GTI / 2009 Black 125 Tiguan

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