Group Buy / EOI new generation DNS head units (RNS-510 alternative)

[chillybone]

Is there a different way to update because it says it updated fine did the 1st update and 2nd

[Goobz]

There should be 3 updates. The coloured screen, then the white screen (MPU) then the firmware (MCU).

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[chillybone]

Oh geez I only did 2. I did the 1st one with the colored screen, then the white screen.

[Goobz]

Yeah once the unit boots to the radio screen you put the SD back in and it should initiate an MCU update then reboot

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[chillybone]

It did that. Sorry what's the first 2 steps then lol

[Goobz]

Ok just to clarify, the instructions I posted do work, they update the software in this order: BSP (colour text screen), MPU (white screen with text in the middle), MCU (software menu after unit boots into radio).

For the BSP update to come up, it is essential that you:

• start with a blank SD card (format it to make sure)
• make sure the "UPD" file in the firmware zip is the first file copied to the blank SD card (this is why you must extract this file and this file only, by itself, into the blank SD card before you extract the rest)

If your unit does not boot into the colourful text screen with the firmware SD in the GPS slot, most cases it's because the UPD file is not the first file copied to the SD card.

After the BSP update the MPU update will run itself. After it tells you to reboot the unit, whether the unit reboots itself or not, SWITCH OFF the unit. And then, REMOVE the firmware SD from the GPS slot, and start the unit again. If you do not remove the firmware SD before you start it again, you will end up at the colourful text screen for the BSP update again, and you will have to repeat the process and wait for the MPU update.

If you removed the SD from the GPS slot and started the unit it will simply boot into radio. When you see the radio screen, insert the firmware SD into the GPS slot again. You will get an automated popup menu asking to update the MCU. Choose yes and wait, then the unit will turn itself off when the MCU update is complete. At that point your firmware update is complete, remove the card from the GPS slot (again, do this before you turn on the unit or you will end up at the BSP update screen again), and you can turn on your unit with BSP, MPU and MCU all updated.

For reference, the updated firmware numbers are:

BSP: MS9.D
MCU: DNS810.131202_CAN
MPU: DNS810.A9.20131129

I use the exact same process above to update my firmware every time, so if you don't end up with these versions, go back, read the instructions, and follow them to the letter.

If you refer back to Sandys directions above and follow them to the letter you shouldn't have an issue. I initially did as well but once I followed his instructions EXACTLY it all went fine.

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[Mister Jim Lahey]

Theres really nothing more to show over what Sandy already has in his videos. All the same functionality is there and the known bugs are well documented here.

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I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to see an unbiased customer who's been using it for more than a couple of hours run through the features and demonstrate a few of the shortcomings. Enough to know whether they're something that would bother you.

No-one who saw Sandy's videos would've been prepared for the feedback we've seen in here since people have actually started to receive them.

It's time to give it marks out of ten.

[cody]

I just read over about 30 pages of this thread.. quite interesting really.
can't decide whether to go for:
DNS810 - Bugs etc
ANS810 - fear of lack of support with the new DNS810
RNS510 - Price & lack of features compared to DNS/ANS810

Price is a big issue, but then peace of mind is too. Was there a post i missed about timing of release for a final DNS810 unit?


Cheers,
Cody

[Mattlock]

RNS510 - Price & lack of features compared to DNS/ANS810

If you don't have BT in your car already you'll need to add the factory module which, if you buy the premium one (better features and compatibility with the Bosch-made variety of RNS), will double the cost plus it's a tough install (driver's seat, A pillar and headlining).

[cody]

If you don't have BT in your car already you'll need to add the factory module which, if you buy the premium one (better features and compatibility with the Bosch-made variety of RNS), will double the cost plus it's a tough install (driver's seat, A pillar and headlining).

I've got bluetooth in my Golf. With that, what would you say?

[moda]

I've got bluetooth in my Golf. With that, what would you say?

Honestly mate, play the waiting game. If you don't want to play the waiting game, just get the RNS, pay the money and be done with it.

I'm willing to take the gamble on the DNS because, why not, and because i'm a techie, early adopter and yea. Personally, I don't think the DNS will be prime time ready for at least a few more months. I wouldn't bother with the ANS at this point either.

It's up to you what you want to do. If you just want something right now that just works, pony up and get the RNS and know that it will work flawlessly.

[Mattlock]

I've got bluetooth in my Golf. With that, what would you say?

Having BT in the car already helps. The ANS/DNS won't use it but that's not really a decision point.

For me, I decided that almost every alternative was better value than the RNS. I read a number of average reports about its performance and I wasn't keen on being tied to a manufacturer for map updates (like I am with my other car at $200 a pop). I would also have had to buy BT which made it a slam dunk against it.

I was in the DNS group buy until about 3 weeks ago and I got out. At the time, the DNS had too many questions over it so I bought a Pioneer AppRadio. This gave me almost everything I wanted (no MFD integration) in a package that gave me excellent integration with my iPhone.

If you go with something other than the 3 you mentioned you will have more stuffing around with adaptor harnesses to get them to work (Connects2 make these bit it's an extra cost).

If you're not in a hurry, the DNS is looking better again. If you are in a hurry and don't want SatNav then all of the major manufacturers have a double DIN unit that will be excellent.

At the moment only an RNS will give you full MFD integration.

[chillybone]

If you refer back to Sandys directions above and follow them to the letter you shouldn't have an issue. I initially did as well but once I followed his instructions EXACTLY it all went fine.

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I did do all this just like that and it didn't work I saw all the updates go through I'll try again then

[swyner]

I did do all this just like that and it didn't work I saw all the updates go through I'll try again then

Well I guess I am not as crazy as I thought!! I too could not get the firmware to update using Sandy's method so follow what I said in my post....just copy over the firmware file (AS_something). Turn your DNS on and then insert the card. It should immediately have a prompt to update firmware. You may have to turn on and off the DNS for the prompt to come up if it doesn't come up automatically when you insert the SD card. Remember, just copy the firmware file onto a blank SD card this time...not the BSP or MPU.

Edit: the above should only be done once the BSP (color text screen) and MPU (white screen with success). For some reason the MCU file was deleted from the SD card during the BSP and MPU update process. So instead of doing it all over again, you can just update the firmware by itself as per above.

[swyner]

Hey Sandy...any updated firmware? Also, seeing that tomorrow is the 12th, any word if AS is going ahead with full automated production on the DNS?