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Spent the day out at Lakeside playing with Porkas.
Car seems capable of 66's with really just basic, stuff, It has coilovers, exhaust, ECU Flash, PD160 Intake and that is it out of a TDI. (There was no timing for the afternoon sessions when I was running but I was able to stay out of reach of my mates 930 Porka which does 65.5's around Lakeside.
Couple of issues. Needs more camber in the front so going to organise a set of KMac front camber tops. The other issue is EGT's with the stock SMIC and that crappy little turbo it is just getting too hot on the EGT Side of it. So I am going to have to move forward the plans to fit the bigger turbo and intercooler and an LSD at the same time.
OH and the other issue is the brakes. I had no brake fade but I have glazed the brakes so that is another issue to fix which will be the 312mm 2 Piece brakes with the Porsche Boxster Calipers. So a few things to get done but the car handled fairly well.
Also the car has no rear sway bar fitted and honestly feels like it isn't required at all, atleast at this stage.
But it seems promising, I mean I really only need to drop 6 - 7 seconds off the current time to be up with the quick cars at Lakeside.
Why? The old section really flows and is great for small cars (yes the new section is boring but it lets the guys with horsepower open up).
I could only just break 1:55, yesterday. - by far the slowest VW there
Filled up when I got back and put 55 litres in - I'm thinking I was close to running out...
Resident grumpy old fart VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS
Why? The old section really flows and is great for small cars (yes the new section is boring but it lets the guys with horsepower open up).
I could only just break 1:55, yesterday. - by far the slowest VW there
Filled up when I got back and put 55 litres in - I'm thinking I was close to running out...
Just never been a fan of it, it doesn't have enough elevation changes, it really is just like QR but with more left hand corners.
2008 VW Polo TDi
GIAC | REMSA | PD160 | DECAT | MUFFLERECTOMY | ECS | SUPERPRO | PXL KIWI WIFI | 312mm BRAKES | OZ RACING | KUMHO V70A
To Buy: VNT 17/22 or K3 Turbo | R783 Nozzles | Intercooler | Water meth kit.
Just OH and the other issue is the brakes. I had no brake fade but I have glazed the brakes so that is another issue to fix which will be the 312mm 2 Piece brakes with the Porsche Boxster Calipers. So a few things to get done but the car handled fairly well.
So what causes glazed rotors? Is it the pads? Cos mine are pretty shatty - actually quite awful and scorched from half a dozen track days. As Eddy has found, the braking capacity is sufficient for quite an increase in power when supported with appropriate pads.
Lakeside is a fun little circuit, but must be respected. I was running 66's in the stock gti (only H&R lowered springs) on my first outing there, but the lack of suspension compliance made the dogleg with mid corner bump on the straight a butt clencher every time. Had to leave room for error as a lancer GSR shoot off in to the wall there. Let me know when you hit the track and if time permits would love to join.
Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **
So what causes glazed rotors? Is it the pads? Cos mine are pretty shatty - actually quite awful and scorched from half a dozen track days. As Eddy has found, the braking capacity is sufficient for quite an increase in power when supported with appropriate pads.Lakeside is a fun little circuit, but must be respected. I was running 66's in the stock gti (only H&R lowered springs) on my first outing there, but the lack of suspension compliance made the dogleg with mid corner bump on the straight a butt clencher every time. Had to leave room for error as a lancer GSR shoot off in to the wall there. Let me know when you hit the track and if time permits would love to join.
Are you running with slotted rotors?? The slots, as well as helping with heat dissipation, also help with preventing glazing too...
"If can't get behind your troops, feel free to stand in front of them..."
Are you running with slotted rotors?? The slots, as well as helping with heat dissipation, also help with preventing glazing too...
she's all factory braking at present (pads and rotors).
Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **
So what causes glazed rotors? Is it the pads? Cos mine are pretty shatty - actually quite awful and scorched from half a dozen track days. As Eddy has found, the braking capacity is sufficient for quite an increase in power when supported with appropriate pads.
Lakeside is a fun little circuit, but must be respected. I was running 66's in the stock gti (only H&R lowered springs) on my first outing there, but the lack of suspension compliance made the dogleg with mid corner bump on the straight a butt clencher every time. Had to leave room for error as a lancer GSR shoot off in to the wall there. Let me know when you hit the track and if time permits would love to join.
Long and short is heat and the inability to deal with that heat. I'm in a Polo TDI so I only have the 256mm Brakes. I didn't get any brake fade as I was using good Pads and fluid but If it was 5 laps straight flat out they would of been killed I guess.
Power isn't my issue, I just brake late and hard (have to make up for having a slow diesel somehow)
Will do, not sure when that will be, hopefully after I fit camber tops.
2008 VW Polo TDi
GIAC | REMSA | PD160 | DECAT | MUFFLERECTOMY | ECS | SUPERPRO | PXL KIWI WIFI | 312mm BRAKES | OZ RACING | KUMHO V70A
To Buy: VNT 17/22 or K3 Turbo | R783 Nozzles | Intercooler | Water meth kit.
Just never been a fan of it, it doesn't have enough elevation changes,
That's my beef with the new section (along with the same radius & width 90 degree bends that link it up.
But the camber and radius variation in the old section, along with the small rise and fall between the esses and the sweeper make it quite entertaining in my book.
So what causes glazed rotors? Is it the pads? Cos mine are pretty shatty - actually quite awful and scorched from half a dozen track days.
Glazed pads or rotors?
Greg from GSLRallysports told me that pads can glaze when used with rotors that have been used with different pads due to material pickup.
On a side note, yeaterday, I found that I had to put my rear seats back in to keep the car stable when braking really hard , else the rear wanted to overtake the front. I suspect my B12 springs are a bit hard and causing the suspension to top out in this instance
That's my beef with the new section (along with the same radius & width 90 degree bends that link it up.
But the camber and radius variation in the old section, along with the small rise and fall between the esses and the sweeper make it quite entertaining in my book.
Glazed pads or rotors?
Greg from GSLRallysports told me that pads can glaze when used with rotors that have been used with different pads due to material pickup.
On a side note, yeaterday, I found that I had to put my rear seats back in to keep the car stable when braking really hard , else the rear wanted to overtake the front. I suspect my B12 springs are a bit hard and causing the suspension to top out in this instance
Glazed rotors and they are the only pads to ever be on with that set of discs. really, don't have one pad sticking a little more? I have nothing (I mean nothing in the back of mine and it doesn't do that)
2008 VW Polo TDi
GIAC | REMSA | PD160 | DECAT | MUFFLERECTOMY | ECS | SUPERPRO | PXL KIWI WIFI | 312mm BRAKES | OZ RACING | KUMHO V70A
To Buy: VNT 17/22 or K3 Turbo | R783 Nozzles | Intercooler | Water meth kit.
I have nothing (I mean nothing in the back of mine and it doesn't do that)
The pads aren't sticking - the car gets VERY unstable and wants to turn in either direction when really hauling on the brakes.
The OEM tyres could well have something to do with it (UTQG rating of 240).
I had no problem at all with braking power but the pedal did get soft after a few laps (was too busy to count)
Resident grumpy old fart VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS
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