Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

[LunchboxVRS]

Having enjoyed my 1.2TSI Highline for 12 months I'm very seriously considering a trade in to a new GTI (MY2013). This thread and others similar on alternative sites have given me some serious pause for thought. I've got a couple of questions that I hope someone might be able to answer:

1. I've read somewhere that VW has modified the 1.4 132kW engine to help overcome high oil usage. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, when the new engines started being fitted to cars? If there is a new engine variant, does the engine have a new code that I could check against to make the car I'm thinking of buying has the new engine?

2. Slightly different subject: I know the standard (everything but the GTI) 5-door Polo is built in South Africa. I've read somewhere that the GTI is built in Germany. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks,

Simon

GTI is built in Spain

[alexaescht]

Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

Having enjoyed my 1.2TSI Highline for 12 months I'm very seriously considering a trade in to a new GTI (MY2013). This thread and others similar on alternative sites have given me some serious pause for thought. I've got a couple of questions that I hope someone might be able to answer:

1. I've read somewhere that VW has modified the 1.4 132kW engine to help overcome high oil usage. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, when the new engines started being fitted to cars? If there is a new engine variant, does the engine have a new code that I could check against to make the car I'm thinking of buying has the new engine?

2. Slightly different subject: I know the standard (everything but the GTI) 5-door Polo is built in South Africa. I've read somewhere that the GTI is built in Germany. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks,

Simon

Any MY13 Polo GTI from the factory now will have the updated engine (old engine code: CAVE, new engine code: CTHE)
I believe the upgrades are the breather pipe fitted at factory, and forged pistons or something. Most people on this forum with the new (CTHE) engine have had much less oil usage than the old (CAVE) engine.

Alex.

[steveyoshi]

Any MY13 Polo GTI from the factory now will have the updated engine (old engine code: CAVE, new engine code: CTHE)
I believe the upgrades are the breather pipe fitted at factory, and forged pistons or something. Most people on this forum with the new (CTHE) engine have had much less oil usage than the old (CAVE) engine.

Alex.

Thanks Alex...I just asked what the difference is in another thread. No need to worry now.

[alexaescht]

Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

Thanks Alex...I just asked what the difference is in another thread. No need to worry now.

That's ok. Happy to help.

[gavs]

Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

Any MY13 Polo GTI from the factory now will have the updated engine (old engine code: CAVE, new engine code: CTHE)
I believe the upgrades are the breather pipe fitted at factory, and forged pistons or something. Most people on this forum with the new (CTHE) engine have had much less oil usage than the old (CAVE) engine.

Alex.

In all fairness there isn't that many CTHE polos on here yet. I think it's too soon to pass judgement in all honesty but the changes do seem to have helped. There is a lot more changes than just a crankcase breather and pistons, the rings are different, a new oil separator and intake pipe work, slightly different cylinder head assembly from memory too. I have outlined all the changes elsewhere on here.

[alexaescht]

Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

In all fairness there isn't that many CTHE polos on here yet. I think it's too soon to pass judgement in all honesty but the changes do seem to have helped. There is a lot more changes than just a crankcase breather and pistons, the rings are different, a new oil separator and intake pipe work, slightly different cylinder head assembly from memory too. I have outlined all the changes elsewhere on here.

I was just going on what I knew sorry.

Should leave it to the experts in future...

[k0e1]

Wow a quick experience that I just had. Called barloworld VW at mascot to ask if I could get a free engine oil top up for my polo gti. Lady goes no since you didnt buy the car from them so you would need to pay. Then I go oh ok liverpool VW does it for free for me but isnt this VW fault due to their oil consumption problem? The service lady responds with didnt you know 9 out of 10 VW uses engine oil to lubricate the engine and it is normal to loose oil. So I go hmm yeah but not normal to top up 1L of oil a month. She goes nah thats normal I just hung up to save my breathe. Clearly not going to them to buy a new VW car if i ever do.

[steveyoshi]

the limit is 500ml per 1000kms... if it is more start making noise.

staying with one dealer to do this is important.

[klboy]

Did a trip to Sydney and back (~2000km) and had to top up 500ml.

[steveyoshi]

the most I got was 400+ ml in 1000lms.... it is now at 7500ks down to 65ml per 1000kms

[k0e1]

Quick survey question. Who has got a new breather hose installed and actually made an improvement rather than making it worse cause I rememeber reading some posts and once they changed it, it went down hill in terms of oil consumption but only the black soot was gone. Please comment as I'll be going in for a 15k service telling to fix my fuel line rattle and oil consumption problem ( after a full top up my car lasts about 2.3k before the engine oil light goes off). CHeers

[Zakarados]

Who has got a new breather hose installed and actually made an improvement

I was getting 1L/1000km oil consumption since new. I had the breaker pipe changed at around 4000km, I am a little over 5000km now and have "only" used 500ml of oil. I would say it has helped, but still horrible. The black soot on my hatch is probably worse than ever. I found that BP and Shell 98RON fuel cause the most black soot. Caltex 98RON seems to be a much finer must of soot, no chunks. Could be just luck though, havent done any long term tests.

[steveyoshi]

I was getting 1L/1000km oil consumption since new. I had the breaker pipe changed at around 4000km, I am a little over 5000km now and have "only" used 500ml of oil. I would say it has helped, but still horrible. The black soot on my hatch is probably worse than ever. I found that BP and Shell 98RON fuel cause the most black soot. Caltex 98RON seems to be a much finer must of soot, no chunks. Could be just luck though, havent done any long term tests.

Wow... Oil smoke is Blue! and the staining on the rear bumper will be a little different, although black soot is more fuel related.

500ml+ per 1000kms is over the limit. Is it time to push for a new motor? 1L per 100kms is atrocious...

[steveyoshi]

Quick survey question. Who has got a new breather hose installed and actually made an improvement rather than making it worse cause I rememeber reading some posts and once they changed it, it went down hill in terms of oil consumption but only the black soot was gone. Please comment as I'll be going in for a 15k service telling to fix my fuel line rattle and oil consumption problem ( after a full top up my car lasts about 2.3k before the engine oil light goes off). CHeers

I have had no adjustments at all... no changes. Car supplied 7/12 (Built 3/12) and the oil use was at it's worst at 400mls per 1000kms, now it seems to have dropped.

No idea what Fuel Line rattle is!!

[prcurrie]

Quick survey question. Who has got a new breather hose installed and actually made an improvement rather than making it worse cause I rememeber reading some posts and once they changed it, it went down hill in terms of oil consumption but only the black soot was gone. Please comment as I'll be going in for a 15k service telling to fix my fuel line rattle and oil consumption problem ( after a full top up my car lasts about 2.3k before the engine oil light goes off). CHeers

No change for me whatsoever! Just done another 1,000kms since the last topup so will have a look tonight where it's sitting.

Soot was good for probably 3 weeks after the install, now back with vengence!