Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

[k0e1]

That's great to hear. After 2.5 years of battle for me I am finally getting oil squirters in and I hope that will be end of my oil consumption nightmare.

Its been a while and I thought I should update this thread as Ive spoken of my woes on here previously...

And... I'm happy to say that after I had my engine rebuilt with the new squirters, pistons and rings that my oil consumption is now Nil. Yes seriously. Im amazed really and didnt truly believe it after the debacle the car had become, from 600kms at its worst between oil lights to not using any at all in 5000+kms. Ive even cleaned up my tailpipes now as its actually worth the effort LOL.

Im sad to report that it wasnt all plain sailing, the dealer dented my car and scratched my bonet while they had it... for a month. The dents were removed but they argued they were there before of course even tho they were obvious lift leg marks. Comms was apauling and seemed they always needed some other part and had to request it from VWA and then wait, then break / find something else and then wait again, plus only one guy in the workshop was trained on how to do this work - I took that with a pinch of salt, but in reality most main dealer mechanics dont pull engines apart, just change oil and brake pads I guess.

So, worth it... yes. Finally I have a car that doesnt have clutch slip or use oil. Yeah.... Like it should have been from day 1!

[JonW]

Yeah, keep at em. My issue was that I dont do a huge milage so it took ages to agree I'd done enough that it wasnt going to get better. not helped by my dealer adding 400kms to my 1000km oil test the first time, leading VWA to say 'well its close enough to spec'... sigh.

[Pokie]

Needs revised oil injectors and updated Pistons. I have done at least 10 polo engines and never had one come back for oil top ups.

[RoknRob]

What is this about updated pistons? First I've heard of it... What is changed?

[JonW]

up to about mid 13 the pistons need changing, not just the rings. dunno whats different, but they are what was fitted to the later motors. coupling them with new squirters stops the oil in its tracks.

[RoknRob]

Interesting. I've only heard about the oil squirters, not the pistons. Good to know!

[kaanage]

I thought updated pistons and rings predated the oil squirters

[RoknRob]

I was never offered the pistons and rings. That was part of the 3rd step "engine rebuild", after ventilation hoses and... Damn, what was the other thing? I though the squirters were to AVOID an engine rebuild and replacement of pistons and rings.

[Harrydhillon]

Mine is going in for new oil squirters next week

[RoknRob]

I'm in the middle of an out of warranty oil consumption test. I know my car still uses too much, so it will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

[JonW]

I was never offered the pistons and rings. That was part of the 3rd step "engine rebuild", after ventilation hoses and... Damn, what was the other thing? I though the squirters were to AVOID an engine rebuild and replacement of pistons and rings.

I also had the vent hoses done (at 6k kms) and a few other little things like that over the years, none of it made a blind bit of difference.

The squirters are under the pistons, so swapping them is something your average vw dealer will take about a week to do it seems. Sigh. Its not like they are that hard to get it, sump off... move a few things and 'oh hello squirters...'. Changing the pistons at the same time and swapping the clutches... now thats a month. Pathetic isnt it?! Maybe you have a better dealer than me... it wouldnt be hard! [1]

The pistons and rings were always on the cards for oil burning cars up to / incl MY12.5, it was MY13s that have the new ones. If you have a MY13 they just clean the gunk out of the rings and put it back together it seems, but early models get the new pistons to MY13 spec.
(MYs are not an exact ref point, and even engine number isnt it seems, they have to pull them out and look at them to know what you have in there)

Have to say that the pistons/rings and squirters were the fix for me, I washed the car last night and the tail pipes are still clean after I polished them about 3000kms ago. I never thought Id see that day... I'd given up on the bright finish and convinced myself they were matt black... And... Oil checks always show the car isnt using any oil at all now.

[1] A note on leaving your car at the dealer for a month... always note all marks and dents and check the car thoroughly when you get it back. They will damage it. I promise. It will be in their way while they wait for VWA to approve things, so will be pushed about their shop enginless. you have been warned. Also their loan car will probably require you to pay $25-40/day to get comp insurance, else its 5k or something silly in case of any (even non fault) accident. VWA will not fund the loan car insurance. You may be able to swap your own car insurance over to the loan car, but usually not as these are sub let from a 3rd party and not even the dealer has much say over the insuarnce of it. I agreed they would do comp for a one off fee of $40 as an admin charge after I went ballistic when they suggested I paid for insurance on a car while my fully insured car holidayed at their place. 28 days it was there... 28 days x $40 = well over a grand!

[Harrydhillon]

Oil squirters was done last Monday 01/03/15, took the dealership half a day, which I thought was very quick. Will keep an eye on the oil levels

[Snail Style]

2 days is a reasonable time. The job itself only takes about 2-4 hours. However a good dealer/mechanic will want the sealant to dry overnight and test in the morning for any oil leaks.

[danield]

Had my Fabia done a couple of weeks ago. Let them have it for 2 days to make sure they didn't rush it. So far bugger all oil usage.

[Pokie]

You lot crack me up, I could make so much money if it wasn't for warranty! Pistons have revised oil cooling jets. Completely new arrangement compared to the old ones, and oil injectors are smaller, I guess our tropical climate Dosent call for so much cold start help.
The hoses don do anything. It's just something to get paid for buy warranty. I do chains Pistons and oil injectors. Full rebuild. U need to tell the dealer it's noisy on start up and burning oil. Should take 3 days back to customer. If they stuff you around just bring it to my work. Or pay me to do it!!