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Time for new shocks - OEM Sachs vs Bilstein B8?

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  • Time for new shocks - OEM Sachs vs Bilstein B8?

    My car is due for new shocks.

    I am running KW 20mm lowered springs and the OEM Sach ones have lasted me 140,000kms.

    Do i stick with OEM or go Bilstein B8's?

    What has everyone around here done?

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    2009 Volkswagen R36 Wagon
    1968 Audi F103 75L Coupe
    1966 Volkswagen Beetle Deluxe

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    I fitted Koni sports yellow shocks 8741-1488 and matched them with Eibach sports springs. If I'd gone for stiffer springs than Eibach, I might have chosen Bilstein. One thing to keep in mind, if there is a person who is not happy with their Bilsteins, it's generally because they find them too firm. I've never heard of anyone complaining that their Bisteins are too soft.
    2007 Passat B6 3.2 litre V6 4Motion | Granite Grey | standard 17" Solitude wheels | tow bar
    Mods: R36 steering wheel | HP DQ250 DSG tune | HPA Haldex performance controller | Koni sports yellow shocks | Eibach springs | H&R sway bars | Whiteline ALK | Kufatec E-MFA add on | Garage door button | Warning triangle retrofit | Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003s

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    • #3
      I fitted Koni Sports yellow and Eibach Pro-Kit (the less sporty spring). I love the initial compliance and general ride and spring control. They are adjustable but that's a bit academic as I've done it once in 80,000km and the rears are a pain to do.

      If I was doing it again I'd probably get the Koni STR.T or Bilstein B6/B8. My preference would probably be the B8.

      This is on an Octavia but they are all similar...
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      • #4
        The B8 Bilsteins are quite pricey. For something not too much more expensive than OEM, i have used Koni Sports (Yellow ones) in several cars and they have been really nice.

        Koni also now offer a STRT shock which is non-adjustable and therefore cheaper than the Sports.

        KONI | STR.T

        KONI | Sport
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
          The B8 Bilsteins are quite pricey,
          There are some good value sellers on eBay UK and you will save a lot on AU prices but I know for a fact that Bilstein AU (Heasemans) will wash their hands of any support or warranty for anything bought outside Australia (fair enough). For some this is an issue, others are happy to take the risk.

          I bought my Konis in an ECS Tuning sale when the AUD was strong (2013) and saved about 40% on local prices.
          carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic
          I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums

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          • #6
            Costa PM'd me for my thoughts, but for the benefit of others...

            I've had Bilsteins on other cars before. I chose the B8s because the R36 has sports suspension (30mm lower than standard) and the bump and rebound are matched to the shorter suspension travel. I haven't changed the springs, I don't want it any lower or stiffer.

            They are probably slightly firmer than standard with a more controlled rebound and a better low speed ride, certainly better than the crappy standard ride.

            In my opinion, worth the expense.
            Biscay Blue MY10.5 Passat R36 Wagon
            Options: Sunroof, RNS510 Sat Nav, Dynaudio, Power Tailgate, ACC, RVC, BT 9w7, Tint and Factory Towbar.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by 3C4M Guy View Post
              I fitted Koni sports yellow shocks 8741-1488 and matched them with Eibach sports springs. If I'd gone for stiffer springs than Eibach, I might have chosen Bilstein. One thing to keep in mind, if there is a person who is not happy with their Bilsteins, it's generally because they find them too firm. I've never heard of anyone complaining that their Bisteins are too soft.
              I had Bilstein PSS10's and found them good even on rough roads. From factory some would say the R36 is stiff.

              Originally posted by brad View Post
              I fitted Koni Sports yellow and Eibach Pro-Kit (the less sporty spring). I love the initial compliance and general ride and spring control. They are adjustable but that's a bit academic as I've done it once in 80,000km and the rears are a pain to do.

              If I was doing it again I'd probably get the Koni STR.T or Bilstein B6/B8. My preference would probably be the B8.

              This is on an Octavia but they are all similar...
              Will look into the Koni STRT. I can get B8's for $750 shipped

              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
              The B8 Bilsteins are quite pricey. For something not too much more expensive than OEM, i have used Koni Sports (Yellow ones) in several cars and they have been really nice.

              Koni also now offer a STRT shock which is non-adjustable and therefore cheaper than the Sports.

              KONI | STR.T

              KONI | Sport
              Will look into the Koni's

              Originally posted by brad View Post
              There are some good value sellers on eBay UK and you will save a lot on AU prices but I know for a fact that Bilstein AU (Heasemans) will wash their hands of any support or warranty for anything bought outside Australia (fair enough). For some this is an issue, others are happy to take the risk.

              I bought my Konis in an ECS Tuning sale when the AUD was strong (2013) and saved about 40% on local prices.
              How much did you pay?

              How much OEM im guessing around $600?

              I can B8's for $750 shipped.

              Originally posted by prn31 View Post
              Costa PM'd me for my thoughts, but for the benefit of others...

              I've had Bilsteins on other cars before. I chose the B8s because the R36 has sports suspension (30mm lower than standard) and the bump and rebound are matched to the shorter suspension travel. I haven't changed the springs, I don't want it any lower or stiffer.

              They are probably slightly firmer than standard with a more controlled rebound and a better low speed ride, certainly better than the crappy standard ride.

              In my opinion, worth the expense.
              Thanks mate might have to take me for a spin
              2009 Volkswagen R36 Wagon
              1968 Audi F103 75L Coupe
              1966 Volkswagen Beetle Deluxe

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              • #8
                Originally posted by XXX-1.8T View Post

                How much did you pay?

                How much OEM im guessing around $600?

                I can B8's for $750 shipped.
                Koni Yellow Sports - AUD732 shipped in 2013.

                AUD750 for B8s shipped is great value. I think locally ~$1100???
                carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic
                I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums

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                • #9
                  Do you have a link to where these can be found?

                  I am after some new shocks for my wagon as well.

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                  • #10
                    I am looking at this now too but have 19x9 wheels with 245 tyres. I am getting scrubbing over bumps and when I load up the back if is even worse. Is anyone out there running similar?
                    Will B8 or Koni's help?

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                    • #11
                      sorry to dig up an old one, but would you guys say the the billies B8 is the closest to factory?

                      just worked out hat mine is not far from going, so kinda need to start thinking about it...

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