Stage 1 vs stage 2 - cost, gains

[amunra]

Seems like a little bit of a loaded question, but sure, I'll bite =D

Here are the parts with RRP pricing (discounts sometimes apply), labour costs extra:

Milltek performance catted downpipe (200 cell), with Zircotec ceramic coating ($350 extra), I'll upgrade the rest of the exhaust (cat back) with stage 3: Milltek Sport Cast Catted Downpipe - VW Golf MK7/7.5 R/8V S3, for OE Exhaust [SSXVW386] - Harding Performance ($2,100)

Racingline Intercooler - emailed Jeff from mygolfmk7.com and he felt it should be up to task: RACINGLINE 2.0 TSI INTERCOOLER MQB [VWR E 14G700] - Harding Performance ($2,095)

Racingline Turbo boost pipe hose kit: RACINGLINE TURBO BOOST PIPE HOSE KIT EA888.3 2.0 TSI[VWR E 140004] - Harding Performance ($550)

Racingline R600 underhose (should have bought this with the R600 - if I'd known): Racingline R600 Coolant Underhose [VWR17G7R600] - Harding Performance ($125)

Racingline Stage 1 -> Stage 2 tuning upgrade: BUNDLE RACINGLINE OEM+ PERFORMANCE ECU SOFTWARE - MK 7/7.5 s3 8V 2.0 TSI MQB IS38 - Harding Performance ($Free)

+ Wheel alignment
+ Labour

Oh BTW - it seems they have 20% off their ECU/DSG tuning atm.

not bad. they made up for the price of the parts with a free tune... did u have to pay for ur stage 1 tho? most tuners usually do a free upgrade from stage 1 to 2

[nermal]

not bad. they made up for the price of the parts with a free tune... did u have to pay for ur stage 1 tho? most tuners usually do a free upgrade from stage 1 to 2

Yeah, I paid for the original Stage 1 ECU+DSG tune and it includes free "upgrades for life": RACINGLINE OEM+SOFTWARE FAQ - Harding Performance

[amunra]

Yeah, I paid for the original Stage 1 ECU+DSG tune and it includes free "upgrades for life": RACINGLINE OEM+SOFTWARE FAQ - Harding Performance

fair enough. if vw australia approve it does that mean vw australia cover it all under warranty?

[petemac110]

so far... ive been closest to getting some info about his build and have a discussion... which he seems reluctant to tell us exactly whats going on in this or his builder is reluctant to tell him ?....

you guys are the ones flogging the deadhorse squabbling over symantics.

'needs' and 'priorities'..

his aim is to get his arteon in the 10s.. simply doesnt need to spend that extra 10 - 15k to do it..

If he wants to spend all that cash to say his arteon goes in the 10s but goes to the track once every 3 years then he can.

this forum actually is more of a **** comparing / swinging contest than a discussion forum.

Having a discussion... you seem focused on trying to convince him to spend less or needing to justify parts that you deem unnecessary and overkill - doing the bare minimum to reach the target. Anything you don't agree with is met with snide comments. Cost-minimisation and bang-for-buck appears to be your focus and that's all good for you, but as he has stated in the thread, he's getting a Galano E85 flex fuel setup. Galano are arguably at the cutting-edge of EA888 tuning in Australia at the moment. They have the runs on the board, and I can absolutely understand why someone might want to go for a proven setup like this, rather than tuning the EA888 to within an inch of its life on Australia's relatively poor 98RON fuel.

It's not always about getting the most bang for the least buck - that's a personal preference. Just because you don't see value in the name-brand parts, doesn't mean it's the gospel of the Lord.

I still haven't been able to find BO11OS's question "I want to reach 10s but not spend $25k on a Galano setup - tell me how to get there" but you seen fixated on answering it nonetheless

[amunra]

Having a discussion... you seem focused on trying to convince him to spend less or needing to justify parts that you deem unnecessary and overkill - doing the bare minimum to reach the target. Anything you don't agree with is met with snide comments. Cost-minimisation and bang-for-buck appears to be your focus and that's all good for you, but as he has stated in the thread, he's getting a Galano E85 flex fuel setup. Galano are arguably at the cutting-edge of EA888 tuning in Australia at the moment. They have the runs on the board, and I can absolutely understand why someone might want to go for a proven setup like this, rather than tuning the EA888 to within an inch of its life on Australia's relatively poor 98RON fuel.

It's not always about getting the most bang for the least buck - that's a personal preference. Just because you don't see value in the name-brand parts, doesn't mean it's the gospel of the Lord.

I still haven't been able to find BO11OS's question "I want to reach 10s but not spend $25k on a Galano setup - tell me how to get there" but you seen fixated on answering it nonetheless

this thread is actually about cost / gains on stage 1 -2... so now im talking about the cost for stage 3... not entirely sure what youre talking about you actually just sound like ur on here defending this guy.. noones attacking him... noones told him to do anything im asking what hes buying , why hes spending so much money and saying its possible to spend less for the same result... it applies to him and anyone else on this forum you soft cock

[nermal]

fair enough. if vw australia approve it does that mean vw australia cover it all under warranty?

Heh, yeah I wish! Sorry, I meant that VW Australia chose it for their Art3on performance car project a few years back (I remember reading about it):

Volkswagen creates world'''s fastest Arteon - carsales.com.au

VOLKSWAGEN CHOOSES RACINGLINE

[amunra]

Heh, yeah I wish! Sorry, I meant that VW Australia chose it for their Art3on performance car project a few years back (I remember reading about it):

Volkswagen creates world'''s fastest Arteon - carsales.com.au

VOLKSWAGEN CHOOSES RACINGLINE

ahaha with those prices u mentioned u would think so !

[Manaz]

you soft cock

And now we know why you run into issues with moderators. If you were testing the waters to see how hard you can push, you've over-cooked it.

First and final warning. Further abusive posts will be deleted (and no, I am not going to spend the time editing them so that anything of value that you do say remains - that's your problem), and consistent inappropriate posting will result in a ban.

Don't start blaming others if you can't keep your abusive manner in check. Your freedom of speech does NOT cover abusing other members.

[Manaz]

All.

If you can't be polite, or if not polite, at least respectful, don't click the submit/post/whatever button.

I've cleaned up a whole pile of mess in here from multiple people.

Let's keep it civil and on topic. You're allowed to disagree with each other - but do it without insults (implicit or explicit) please.

[amunra]

sooo.. neone drive their vw today ?.. teehee

[Manaz]

Plenty. But we need to make sure that if we want them to keep coming here, that we keep discussion civil and on-topic, so that the site remains a resource where good information is easily obtained.

We don't want/need to become Facebook.

[BO11OS]

Well after all the waiting all parts needed are in & I dropped my Arteon off today at the workshop, looking to get it back in around 1.5 to 2, I have also left my haldex controller with them to install & tune to suite as the Galano tune is a boost by gear setup. I have 3 x 19 litre drums of VP c85 race fuel sitting in my garage for when it returns & used for drag duties.

[Lucas_R]

Well after all the waiting all parts needed are in & I dropped my Arteon off today at the workshop, looking to get it back in around 1.5 to 2, I have also left my haldex controller with them to install & tune to suite as the Galano tune is a boost by gear setup. I have 3 x 19 litre drums of VP c85 race fuel sitting in my garage for when it returns & used for drag duties.

You will love it - Galano are the best in the business at the moment for EA888 tuning so they will have it running sweet as a nut no doubt. What turbo are you using? TTE, EQT or Garrett etc.

If you are happy to share, id like to know what parts you have chosen to run (downpipe/intercooler/hpfp etc) as im contemplating a mild stage 3 on my GTI also, with either the HPA IS38 OEM+ or Garrett Powermaxx stage 1 turbo. Id be happy with 250kw or thereabouts as its still a FWD car (albeit with the Performance Pack front LSD).

Is the work being done at Pacortech in Ingleburn? I know Galano operate out of that workshop sometimes as they have a dyno etc.

[BO11OS]

Hi Lucas,

I am running a V5 large turbo. I was supposed to go with the EQT but they where not available & not eta. Happy to discuss all parts I am using if you wanna shoot me a message. Car is at Carbon Autohaus but will head to Pacortech so Galano can dyno tune it.

You will love it - Galano are the best in the business at the moment for EA888 tuning so they will have it running sweet as a nut no doubt. What turbo are you using? TTE, EQT or Garrett etc.

If you are happy to share, id like to know what parts you have chosen to run (downpipe/intercooler/hpfp etc) as im contemplating a mild stage 3 on my GTI also, with either the HPA IS38 OEM+ or Garrett Powermaxx stage 1 turbo. Id be happy with 250kw or thereabouts as its still a FWD car (albeit with the Performance Pack front LSD).

Is the work being done at Pacortech in Ingleburn? I know Galano operate out of that workshop sometimes as they have a dyno etc.

[BO11OS]

Also my son has a GTI, Carbon Autohaus just recently installed a IS38 on it & re did the stage 2 APR tune, with a single spinner he ran a best of 12.9 @ 114mph his 1st time out.