Going for as many as they can get out of it, I have seen them get 360 kw at the wheels also seen they got 415 kw on one manual golf, So told them I want what ever they can get out of it I want to run into the 10's
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Originally posted by BO11OS View PostNo standard engine with with all bolt on's.
i wouldnt be spending any money on upgraded clutch packs or whatever u dont need it unless u burn urs which u probably wont
Source urself a pair of 2nd hand bigger brakes off a porsche or audi
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Originally posted by amunra View Postthe ea888 is capable of alot of power 600+ HP if your tuner limits the torque not to blow the engine... if u want big torque which might be needed after u do ur stage 3 ur gonna need to build ur engine and clutchpacks then..
i wouldnt be spending any money on upgraded clutch packs or whatever u dont need it unless u burn urs which u probably wont
Source urself a pair of 2nd hand bigger brakes off a porsche or audi
Interesting... 600HP+ (447kW+) would be impressive.
The Stage 3 bolt-on pathway I'm following reliably does 365kW (590Nm) - apparently it has a higher ceiling, but needs some engine strengthening to avoid breaking things: Stage 3 Turbo Kit for Golf R, Audi S3, Cupra, GTI | RacingLine
It "requires" a new clutch-pack (rated to 700Nm), but I was told to do that upgrade if/when the OEM clutches wears.
Just had another look at they tested a 2014 Golf R and got 0-100 in 2.9s and 400m in 10.92s - understanding that an Arteon is a heavier beast... makes me want to explore weight saving options ;-P
2018 Arteon R-Line - Black, Sunroof, Dynaudio, 20" Wheels, RacingLine: Stage 2 ECU+DSG|380mm BBK|Intercooler+Hoses|Oil Cooler|R600 Intake|Adjustable Front Droplinks|Dogbone Insert|Subframe Brace+Alignment Kit|Propshaft Alignment Kit, Milltek: Zirotec Downpipe, Harding: Front+Rear Sway Bars|Rear Droplinks, Other: OSRAM Dynamic Indicators, EvcX Throttle Controller, 034 (RED) Coil Packs, Various Carbon Bits
2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon
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Originally posted by nermal View PostInteresting... 600HP+ (447kW+) would be impressive.
The Stage 3 bolt-on pathway I'm following reliably does 365kW (590Nm) - apparently it has a higher ceiling, but needs some engine strengthening to avoid breaking things: Stage 3 Turbo Kit for Golf R, Audi S3, Cupra, GTI | RacingLine
It "requires" a new clutch-pack (rated to 700Nm), but I was told to do that upgrade if/when the OEM clutches wears.
theres enough 550 - 600 - 700hp ea888s showing it can be done on stock internals and 6speed gearboxes. if u have the 7 speed DSG it should be stronger than the 6 speed and only need to upgrade the clutches as u burn them or are doing many launches / drag meets.
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Did you see if these power number are on 98 pump fuel or E85?
The tuner I am using is getting the numbers + you quoted but uses his own flex fuel setup. They just re wrote the GTI world record with a 9.9 @ 119, they also ran a 10.07 @140 HE isn't saying how much power it has only that it's over 400kw.
Originally posted by nermal View PostInteresting... 600HP+ (447kW+) would be impressive.
The Stage 3 bolt-on pathway I'm following reliably does 365kW (590Nm) - apparently it has a higher ceiling, but needs some engine strengthening to avoid breaking things: Stage 3 Turbo Kit for Golf R, Audi S3, Cupra, GTI | RacingLine
It "requires" a new clutch-pack (rated to 700Nm), but I was told to do that upgrade if/when the OEM clutches wears.
Just had another look at they tested a 2014 Golf R and got 0-100 in 2.9s and 400m in 10.92s - understanding that an Arteon is a heavier beast... makes me want to explore weight saving options ;-P
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Originally posted by BO11OS View PostDid you see if these power number are on 98 pump fuel or E85?
The tuner I am using is getting the numbers + you quoted but uses his own flex fuel setup. They just re wrote the GTI world record with a 9.9 @ 119, they also ran a 10.07 @140 HE isn't saying how much power it has only that it's over 400kw.2018 Arteon R-Line - Black, Sunroof, Dynaudio, 20" Wheels, RacingLine: Stage 2 ECU+DSG|380mm BBK|Intercooler+Hoses|Oil Cooler|R600 Intake|Adjustable Front Droplinks|Dogbone Insert|Subframe Brace+Alignment Kit|Propshaft Alignment Kit, Milltek: Zirotec Downpipe, Harding: Front+Rear Sway Bars|Rear Droplinks, Other: OSRAM Dynamic Indicators, EvcX Throttle Controller, 034 (RED) Coil Packs, Various Carbon Bits
2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon
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Hi nermal, I am sceptical as from what I have seen to achieve those sort of number you'd need to be running on E85 not a stock engine with a high flow turbo.
The bolt on's I am getting are a lot more than that & I would expect to see between 350 to 380 kw at the wheels. But that's running on E85.
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Originally posted by BO11OS View PostHi nermal, I am sceptical as from what I have seen to achieve those sort of number you'd need to be running on E85 not a stock engine with a high flow turbo.
The bolt on's I am getting are a lot more than that & I would expect to see between 350 to 380 kw at the wheels. But that's running on E85.
That is a Hybrid Turbo exchange and the Stage 3 also requires a lot of other parts to achieve those figures - R600 intake, pipes/hoses/elbows, intercooler, performance catted downpipe & exhaust, upgraded fuel pump etc, plus recommended 700Nm clutch upgrade, big brakes etc.
You can easily get to the $20-25K mark once you add all the hardware and ECU + DSG tune.2018 Arteon R-Line - Black, Sunroof, Dynaudio, 20" Wheels, RacingLine: Stage 2 ECU+DSG|380mm BBK|Intercooler+Hoses|Oil Cooler|R600 Intake|Adjustable Front Droplinks|Dogbone Insert|Subframe Brace+Alignment Kit|Propshaft Alignment Kit, Milltek: Zirotec Downpipe, Harding: Front+Rear Sway Bars|Rear Droplinks, Other: OSRAM Dynamic Indicators, EvcX Throttle Controller, 034 (RED) Coil Packs, Various Carbon Bits
2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon
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Looks like Racingline worked with VW Australia to build a "track ready", "Stage 3" Arteon with 360kW, 600Nm and 0-100km/h in 3.9 seconds (?"on an uphill straight"..."consistently"?)
I remember reading about this one, but didn't realize it was Racingline: VOLKSWAGEN CHOOSES RACINGLINELast edited by nermal; 06-06-2022, 08:07 PM.2018 Arteon R-Line - Black, Sunroof, Dynaudio, 20" Wheels, RacingLine: Stage 2 ECU+DSG|380mm BBK|Intercooler+Hoses|Oil Cooler|R600 Intake|Adjustable Front Droplinks|Dogbone Insert|Subframe Brace+Alignment Kit|Propshaft Alignment Kit, Milltek: Zirotec Downpipe, Harding: Front+Rear Sway Bars|Rear Droplinks, Other: OSRAM Dynamic Indicators, EvcX Throttle Controller, 034 (RED) Coil Packs, Various Carbon Bits
2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon
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Originally posted by BO11OS View PostYes you can, adds up very quick.
I still think u can get stage 3 fun for 10 - 15k max
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Originally posted by amunra View Postadds up quick if your overspending on parts u dont really need for the build to go fast. its sort of overkill to protect the tuner / builder and ur the one paying for it..
I still think u can get stage 3 fun for 10 - 15k max
Sure, everything can be done cheaper. Keen for you to get a Stage 3 for 10k fully installed and let us know how it goes after a year.
I spent a lot of years in the JDM tuning scene and people think they are clever zip tying front mounted ebay intercoolers with pvc piping, but it always catches up with them.
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Originally posted by Vedi View PostIf you read the room, people are not interested putting the cheapest possible no-name parts in their cars.
Sure, everything can be done cheaper. Keen for you to get a Stage 3 for 10k fully installed and let us know how it goes after a year.
I spent a lot of years in the JDM tuning scene and people think they are clever zip tying front mounted ebay intercoolers with pvc piping, but it always catches up with them.
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