Tiguan Performance Tuning

[Tiggy1]

This depends on if they have to take out the ECU and do it on the bench or if they can leave it in the car (due to the ECU's firewall which I believe is now 64 bit). Unfortunately mine had to be taken out, however it didn't take too long I don't think, most of a morning.

Hi Cap. I have a MY11 (Jan build) 147TSI. Was going to get Simon at Viezu to do tune (he is up here so much handier - nearest APR dealer is Tsv, about 500km away), but he said they can't do direct-port tune either. I presume same 64-bit security. Do you (or anyone else) know whether APR have cracked the codes to do direct-port tune yet? If so, may take it to them instead. From reading yours (and others) posts, the Carbonio CAI is probably a worthwhile thing to do at the same time?!
Cheers
P.S: Waddya reckon about this Electric In-Line Supercharger System?
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Seems good in theory, and seems to give more "bang for your buck" to me. Am reluctant to change original intake system because gains seem small compared to cost - whereas this seems to be simple "plug-in" addition which feeds more air to engine constantly?!

[tigger73]

OK Here's my question(s) for the day. I'm considering getting either APR or Superchips stage 1 done to my 125TSI DSG. The issue that I have is that I get a fuel card from work which only allows 95 octane max and not 98. The guys from APR and Superchips both said to use the highest octane possible (well they would as they're all rev heads and it gives best performance), however if I'm limited to 95 is it still worth it?

If I'm only running 95 octane am I voiding my warranty?? Well may as well get it chipped then hey

Also my understanding is that Superchips is just a single program - wiping the original stock mapping away, whereas APR gives you choice of 4 mappings including stock but at twice the price ($750 vs $1495). Do any of you guys that have the APR tune ever use the other 3 ECU mappings? Is there anything that I'm missing here?

One thing that I really want to get rid of is the standard car being slow/bogged off the line. Is there any other way of getting this done without a retune? Will 98 RON do this? I mean driving around in S mode all the time just drives me nuts!!!

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Running 98 in stock tune won't make a scrap of noticable difference.

I don't know about Superchip, but have had APR. It will completly, utterly transform it into a very quick car - you won't believe it's the same engine. Yes, you do have to run 98 though with APR, don't know about Superchip. I never bothered changing mappings although once or twice I switched it back to stock just to remind myself how good it was. I did use the Valet mode a few times just to PO my brother when he wanted a drive

Is there anything you're missing? Yep- an APR remap (or Superchip)- go and do it tomorrow, you won't regret it. Who cares about paying for the fuel? use the fuel card for the lawnmower.

[Captain Bungers]

Hi Cap. I have a MY11 (Jan build) 147TSI. Was going to get Simon at Viezu to do tune (he is up here so much handier - nearest APR dealer is Tsv, about 500km away), but he said they can't do direct-port tune either. I presume same 64-bit security. Do you (or anyone else) know whether APR have cracked the codes to do direct-port tune yet? If so, may take it to them instead. From reading yours (and others) posts, the Carbonio CAI is probably a worthwhile thing to do at the same time?!
Cheers
P.S: Waddya reckon about this Electric In-Line Supercharger System?
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I don't know if anyone has managed to get around the firewall without removing the ECU, however all I can tell you is that it really is worth it - the 500k drive back home will be a blast. The guys at Canberra Volkswagen Centre know how to do it so I am sure they are happy to share the knowledge.

I don't know about the in-line system, I can imagine that it might throw airfilter/flow error messages on the dash? I would just go with the Carbonio personally, the APR is so rad that it will blow you away anyway

[MGV]

I have the APR tune with the 4 programs, i only switched it back to stock mode from the 98 once, to remind myself of the difference! Will also switch it back to stock for a visit to the dealers coming up...

Am planning a bit of a roadie at christmas time, off into some remote-ish places where 98 may not be available everywhere, so i'm considering running the 95 program for the duration of the trip, about 4000km's.

While i think of it, are there any claimed power/torque figures for APR's 95 program? Or economy gains?

Cheers

[Tiggy1]

I don't know if anyone has managed to get around the firewall without removing the ECU, however all I can tell you is that it really is worth it - the 500k drive back home will be a blast. The guys at Canberra Volkswagen Centre know how to do it so I am sure they are happy to share the knowledge.

I don't know about the in-line system, I can imagine that it might throw airfilter/flow error messages on the dash? I would just go with the Carbonio personally, the APR is so rad that it will blow you away anyway

Hi, thanks for that. The tune will be a given (can't wait) - just a matter of working out how/where
I think the Carbonio might go on the wishlist (with downpipe) for later. Will probably be quite happy with the Stage 1 Tune anyway from all reports! Thanks for the feedback about Electric Supercharger - you're probably right, might be risky in upsetting sensors, although as it would be upstream of the MAF sensor I thought not. As you say, best to stick with tried and true! Pity they don't do a twin-charge version of the 2Ltr (same as 1.4) - that would be grouse

[gecko2k]

Are there actually other companies then APR selling downpipes or is it basically just APR or a custom fabrication? I mean other companies do downpipes for the mk5/6, but I have no idea if these would fit the Tig.....

stick with tried and true!

I was just going to say that, looks a bit odd and I've never really seen anything like that before

[team_v]

Are there actually other companies then APR selling downpipes or is it basically just APR or a custom fabrication? I mean other companies do downpipes for the mk5/6, but I have no idea if these would fit the Tig.....



I was just going to say that, looks a bit odd and I've never really seen anything like that before

As far as I know the only other option is techtonics tuning with a 2.5 inch system.

The 4motion system is the reason why most peopl ehaven't designed a downpipe for the australian Tiguan.

[Guy_H]

Are there actually other companies then APR selling downpipes or is it basically just APR or a custom fabrication? I mean other companies do downpipes for the mk5/6, but I have no idea if these would fit the Tig.....



I was just going to say that, looks a bit odd and I've never really seen anything like that before

The APR Australia Tiguan Downpipe is 100% Aussie designed & produced. It's unique to the Tiguan AWD & doesn't fit anything else.

[Tiggy1]

Hi all. Have been having a sticky at the Superchips site and am thinking their Blue Fin device might be the go, as I would be able to download files and plug-in to do ECU Tune myself. Would get around the problem of being so remote from anywhere that can do it. Has anyone used one of these on their Tig? What is the consensus on the "quality of tune" compared to APR?
Cheers

[203132]

I have the superchips tune with an Automatic (sad....) From numbers and from what I've read of other people's experience.

From APR you get more low down torque from 1.7k RPM (you get a bucket load of it!) You do get more low down torque for superchips but just a bit better than stock just not as much as APR. Seems pretty week as it gets close to 3k and is about to change gears but it is still substantially better than my 125TSi....(automatic gearbox)

At the moment, my fuel consumption didn't get any better. With the woman of the house driving the car, I am getting 11.7L/100 over 2000km.
From 3.5k onwards ish imo pulls strongly but I'd assume APR pulls just a tiny bit more from stats. (never driven APR)
Overall I think Superchips is a bargain, but if your the type to thrash it around I think you'd enjoy the APR more. Sometimes I wish I got the APR but due to the missus, I'd rather have her not know I modded the family car....yes the change only slightly noticable during normal driving

[MGV]

Google-translate must have blown a valve trying to fathom what that guy just said...

[Captain Bungers]

Hi all. Have been having a sticky at the Superchips site and am thinking their Blue Fin device might be the go, as I would be able to download files and plug-in to do ECU Tune myself. Would get around the problem of being so remote from anywhere that can do it. Has anyone used one of these on their Tig? What is the consensus on the "quality of tune" compared to APR?
Cheers

I've heard happy reports from people with other cars (not VW) for the very reason you mention - can do it themself, can flash back for warranty jobs etsc. I seriously considered it myself.

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[Tiggy1]

Excellent translation - much better than Google
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I have the superchips tune with an Automatic (sad....) From numbers and from what I've read of other people's experience.

From APR you get more low down torque from 1.7k RPM (you get a bucket load of it!) You do get more low down torque for superchips but just a bit better than stock just not as much as APR. Seems pretty week as it gets close to 3k and is about to change gears but it is still substantially better than my 125TSi....(automatic gearbox)

At the moment, my fuel consumption didn't get any better. With the woman of the house driving the car, I am getting 11.7L/100 over 2000km.
From 3.5k onwards ish imo pulls strongly but I'd assume APR pulls just a tiny bit more from stats. (never driven APR)
Overall I think Superchips is a bargain, but if your the type to thrash it around I think you'd enjoy the APR more. Sometimes I wish I got the APR but due to the missus, I'd rather have her not know I modded the family car....yes the change only slightly noticable during normal driving

Hi. Yeah that seems to tie in with comparison of dyno graphs. APR seems to be more effective tune (and you pay for it) - I guess that is the benefit of more R & D for our conditions (bit of a plug for you Guy). Never-the-less I think I will probably go for the BlueFin from Superchips due to the convenience. Not after ball-tearing performance, just a bit more responsiveness and better overtaking pick-up (speed doesn't kill, lack of decent roads with overtaking lanes does!) Dad drives the car too, so don't want it too lairy (same reason as you for the missus). Although he never complained when I hotted up the old XT Foz

[aussietig]

AFAIK and I've tried, the Bluefin may not be able to read original map due to the Bosch encryption.

FWIW, we have the same MY and my VAG definitely had this chastity belt on it.

But nevertheless worth a try ... provided you get assurance that you will get a full refund, if it doesn't work.[COLOR="Silver"]

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