Tiguan Performance - quarter mile

[Guy_H]

Other dyno's will be hosted shortly - thanks Clay!

[Big Yellow]

actually i dont work for a tuning company mate. i care nothing for them to be honest.

if you care nothing of it and don't care for power, why are you still crapping on???

and aren't you affliated with Peak Performance?

[team_v]

Other dyno's will be hosted shortly - thanks Clay!

No worries Guy.

Stage 1:



Stage 1 with 3 runs:




Stage 2:

[robby_jai]

Guy

You saw my dyno run on two days. The first time you saw it run, it didnt have the modifications it had on it now.

All it had was a stage 1 software with a CAI and nothing else.

Since then I have had other hardware changes to the car and have run a dyno against it.

I have been in discussing with todd to run another dyno on my car to try and suss out why we got such a low reading on my car last time, whether it was the dyno, the tune or other factors.

When I have done so I will provide those results for you. As for a dyno comparison of a tig vs my car more than happy to do so

and what will that prove apart from the power figures the car makes?

It wont substantiate the claims of the performance which is my original post

Robby, I think the only way to solve this is you take your car & dyno it straight against a Tiguan stage 1 - same dyno, same place, same time & day.

From your reckoning you should make 65 to 70kw more @ the wheels than a stage 1 Tig. (150kw vs 215 - 220kw).

I have seen your car run twice on a dyno - Mainline & Dyno Dynamics and both times it made what it made.

I don't really care either way, but don't dispute our claims that a Tiguan stage 1 does not make 189kw.

How about a one on one dyno comparison?

[robby_jai]

no im not tony. apart from the Revo software they sold to me..

all the other parts i sourced were from other suppliers, sourced over seas and Peak fitted them for me.

My Fuel Pump is an APR fuel pump fitted by a very help derek at european autotech. So that shoots the whole idea im affiliated with peak performance.

I'm not crapping on and on about the power. i'm challenging the whole concept that a bog standard tig 125tsi with just a software tune can pull a 5.9 second 0-100sprint and a 14.02 sprint.. given its weight and its lack of Launch controll software

And I am yet to see any one post some proof. Waving some dyno charts as some one mentioned earlier doesnt really prove anything other than yes it makes power.

So in relation to the car making 189kw as claimed by APR. Obviously I have been proven wrong and I'm happy to be proven wrong. So let's get that over and done with

Where's the proof to shut me up once and for all. I dont mind being proven wrong and I have been wrong before.

I challenge any one in sydney with a Tig 125tsi with a BOG standard Stage 1 tune and no other hardware to a visit to WSID. i'll pay for the drag.

Let's see if we can even get with in a whiskers of this 14.02.

Any takers?

if you care nothing of it and don't care for power, why are you still crapping on???

and aren't you affliated with Peak Performance?

[Guy_H]

Race for pink slips!

[team_v]

Race for pink slips!

Don't do it, he's got over 100k under the hood!

[Arctra]

Race for pink slips!

LOL.

Guy's it's all been pretty interesting reading, and pretty civil too which is great. But it's starting to get a bit of a defensive feel about it.

Robbie, why not just put your car against one of these guys if you feel that strongly about it? Otherwise, they seem to have charts and slips to back up their claims. You Super-Tig owners (unlike me an my Tractor-Tig )... please be nice to the other kids in the playground and not cause a fight?

Don't do it, he's got over 100k under the hood!

I don't like your post team_v... didn't the Jetta get beaten in that race?

[team_v]

LOL.

Guy's it's all been pretty interesting reading, and pretty civil too which is great. But it's starting to get a bit of a defensive feel about it.

Robbie, why not just put your car against one of these guys if you feel that strongly about it? Otherwise, they seem to have charts and slips to back up their claims. You Super-Tig owners (unlike me an my Tractor-Tig )... please be nice to the other kids in the playground and not cause a fight?


I don't like your post team_v... didn't the Jetta get beaten in that race?

It did lose, but only because it was FWD.
If it was a 4Mo Tig with APR it would have destroyed the S2000


I like the open invitation for any Sydney based Tiguan Stage 1 owners.

[Tony_Mitchell_1983]

Don't do it, he's got over 100k under the hood!

It's threads like this that make me keep coming back...

HAHAHAHAHAHA...

[Large Fruit]

I think the answer to all of this was in the first post.

If KR is a V8SC guy and he managed a 14.5 in a stage 1 isn't that the answer?

He ran a 14.02 after added on the intercooler, intake, springs, removed the rear seat, spare. Far from a stage 1.

[Sharkie]

I think the answer to all of this was in the first post.

If KR is a V8SC guy and he managed a 14.5 in a stage 1 isn't that the answer?

He ran a 14.02 after added on the intercooler, intake, springs, removed the rear seat, spare. Far from a stage 1.

Exactly .... and as I said, a 14.5 equates to roughly around 6.0s 0-100, which is entirely do-able in a stg1. Karl woud have had to do a 5.7s 0-100 or better to do a 14.02 ..... and he's not even at full stg 2 yet, a 13.9 or less is waiting for that ....

And by the way, the latest G-Tech-Pro SSs are pretty accurate .... on average 0.02s tested differences to other "more accurate" methods in many published and video-taped test .... have a look on the net ....

Happy to put my car through Robbie's tests, 3 problems, its not Sydney, its not Stg 1 anymore and only if he guarantees to pick up the clutch replacement tab .... knowing what I do now, there is no way I'd be revving it up and dropping the clutch to induce a bit of wheelspin ....

I've been around the drags a bit when I was younger, and yet to see anybody in Oz match my Mk1's 12.34s quarter @ 198km/h @ 1200m above sealevel .... so I know what can and cannot be done .... and a Tig's potential to smash into the 12s bracket is definately there .... it will just cost about the same as what the Tig is worth, not 100K but definately around 40K ....

[Pullstarter]

Robby, you stated;

"3. Your APR Stage 1 power if we are to accept APR's claims is 189kw which i DOUBT! but realistically based on my online searches of stage 1 tiguans WITH DYNO sheets they are coming up at about 160kw at the crank!"

Since you have proven to be wildly incorrect with your "online searches" and evidenced by more than one dyno sheet, from different dynos in different states i might add, showing 150-155kw at the wheels I think you better warm your pie up............HUMBLE PIE!

Ahhhh, but then we have the caveat (posted after the dyno sheets were shown of course);

"i have no care for power"

Oh dear

[robby_jai]

You must missed the part where I acknowledge that the gains with a stage 1 do appear possible and have acknowledged.

But I happen to like pie a lot and want to be proven wrong about the times so I'm waiting to be proven wrong

Still waiting

no im not tony. apart from the Revo software they sold to me..

all the other parts i sourced were from other suppliers, sourced over seas and Peak fitted them for me.

My Fuel Pump is an APR fuel pump fitted by a very help derek at european autotech. So that shoots the whole idea im affiliated with peak performance.

I'm not crapping on and on about the power. i'm challenging the whole concept that a bog standard tig 125tsi with just a software tune can pull a 5.9 second 0-100sprint and a 14.02 sprint.. given its weight and its lack of Launch controll software

And I am yet to see any one post some proof. Waving some dyno charts as some one mentioned earlier doesnt really prove anything other than yes it makes power.

So in relation to the car making 189kw as claimed by APR. Obviously I have been proven wrong and I'm happy to be proven wrong. So let's get that over and done with

Where's the proof to shut me up once and for all. I dont mind being proven wrong and I have been wrong before.

I challenge any one in sydney with a Tig 125tsi with a BOG standard Stage 1 tune and no other hardware to a visit to WSID. i'll pay for the drag.

Let's see if we can even get with in a whiskers of this 14.02.

Any takers?

Robby, you stated;

"3. Your APR Stage 1 power if we are to accept APR's claims is 189kw which i DOUBT! but realistically based on my online searches of stage 1 tiguans WITH DYNO sheets they are coming up at about 160kw at the crank!"

Since you have proven to be wildly incorrect with your "online searches" and evidenced by more than one dyno sheet, from different dynos in different states i might add, showing 150-155kw at the wheels I think you better warm your pie up............HUMBLE PIE!

Ahhhh, but then we have the caveat (posted after the dyno sheets were shown of course);

"i have no care for power"

Oh dear

[Transporter]

G'day everyone, haven't been on for a while now but thought I'd post the latest results!
So, I went down to the Motorplex last night for a run in the Tig...

new mods (since my last run) have worked out quite well -
APR Carbonio Intake Stage 1 + 2
APR Intercooler
H&R Lowering Springs

I only had an APR Stage 1 tune the first time and ran a 14.503 @ 92.78mph

With the new mods, including removing rear seats and spare tyre etc, I got down to a:

14.02

Stoked!!

Elapsed Time 14.022
Terminal Speed 97.40mph 156.75km/h
60' 2.136
half track 8.986 @ 127.37

Congratulations, that's fantastic time.
I believe you. However, some of us would like to see some official slip for that. Can you post that, or anybody else withe their Tig TSI.
You know, ...just to bring the end to the argument.

In a mean time, stay civilized.