help:tiguan variant can't decide

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To all who can't decide which Tiguan; petrol or diesel.
At least two people here NZTiguan and Sharkie posted 2 different opinions. For one of them diesel Tig has plenty of performance and it is better than petrol. For Sharkie it is strictly not enough performance, and diesel is not an option. When talking about the torque certainly the diesel have higher torque (320Nm against 280Nm) and it doesn’t matter if it is only up to 2500rpm since for normal driving that is the range where the engine will spend most of the time. The Diesel Tiguan have 280Nm torque beyond 2500 RPM. And IMO for towing diesel would be better suited than petrol.
So, there you go different people, different opinions and everyone thinks that he is right, so if there are people who prefer the diesel Tiguan rather petrol you would have to make decision based on what is best for you and decide after you road test them both.

It might be the truth that Petrol Tiguan is called the GTI of the SUV’s but keep in mind that it is a SUV and not a sports car.

[Sharkie]

To all who can't decide which Tiguan; petrol or diesel.
At least two people here NZTiguan and Sharkie posted 2 different opinions. For one of them diesel Tig has plenty of performance and it is better than petrol. For Sharkie it is strictly not enough performance, and diesel is not an option. When talking about the torque certainly the diesel have higher torque (320Nm against 280Nm) and it doesn’t matter if it is only up to 2500rpm since for normal driving that is the range where the engine will spend most of the time. The Diesel Tiguan have 280Nm torque beyond 2500 RPM. And IMO for towing diesel would be better suited than petrol.
So, there you go different people, different opinions and everyone thinks that he is right, so if there are people who prefer the diesel Tiguan rather petrol you would have to make decision based on what is best for you and decide after you road test them both.

It might be the truth that Petrol Tiguan is called the GTI of the SUV’s but keep in mind that it is a SUV and not a sports.

Agreed, buy the 1 that suits your needs. Both have their strengths.

But remember that performance means just that by definition when you refer to it. Most other SUVs out there are faster than the TDI Tiguan in almost all respects (Even in overtaking). Strictly speaking this is performance. Do they "perform" better overall when judged against your own criteria as a whole? That is for you to decide.

Given that other SUVs are faster than the TDI Tiguan, would I buy 1 over a TDI? NO, I prefer the balance and overall "feel" of the Tiguan over any other SUV on the market today and would buy a TDI over any current CRV/RAV etc etc etc ...

Would I personally buy a TDI over a TSI? Never in a million years.

But, if your needs and views are different, by all means buy 1. It is the standout small SUV (as a model range) on the market today.

[Sharkie]

The Tig does have its shortcoming, mainly in the interior space, but it can't be everything at an entry level mini SUV.

Interior space is fine, actually much better than a Mk2 RAV, but the boot space is much worse.

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Just to add a bit more to this thread about which Tig variant etc. I actually think that the petrol Tigs makes great "sports" cars. People on this forum have commented: "why do performance mods on a Tig?, just buy a GTi". Well I don't actually think a golf is any more a "sports car" than the Tig is. While it's closer to it than a Tig, it's still a hatchback with upgraded suspension and turbo engine (sound familiar?). So the Tig with a few performance mods like the remap, wheels and suspension, makes perfect sense to me as it closes that gap considerably. The Tig is a very well balanced 4wd car as it is, these few mods transform that into a quick, great handling, safe and reasonably exciting car to drive that I find very comfortable and actually has some space. Not everyone wants to be squashed into a small car just to get some performance and handling. Personally, I'm 190cm and find small cars a pain in the proverbial (although I love some of them too).

So the Tig was a great option for me as the only other alternatives that offered similar performance included:



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or maybe even one of these if I actually wanted go off road...



But the Tig is a better size for me, and with a few mods it's spot on the money and makes perfect sense. Those of you wanting something other than your run-of-the-mill SUV because you actually want what I do in your everyday car, then a slightly modded petrol Tig might be worth considering. Of course they are relatively cheap too!

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Cooool pictures.
It would be nice to drive all of them.

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Just got home from the dealer, happy to annouce we are now officially a tiguan owner, well not until it arrive but yeah we'd signed the paper.

125TSI auto White
comfort pack
off road technology
park assist
fog lamp
carpents

total to $44000 drive away
we signed for $41000 drive away

Again I would I like thank everyone for your help in answering alot of my questions, much appreciate!

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total to $44000 drive away
we signed for $41000 drive away

Great rpice - even when you add in the APR remap, you're still in front!

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Again, the TDI flatters to deceive ....... what your seat of your pants are telling you and the real story is quite different.....

From the same Wheels Megatest ..... a quick comparison as an example ......

VW Tiguan 2.0 TDI 6spd manual 103kw/320NM@1750rmin/1630kg
0-100km/h - 10.9s
400m - 17.6s
80-120km/h in 3rd - Not possible
80-120km/h in 4th - 7.4s
80-120km/h in 5th - 8.5s
80-120km/h in 6th - 10.1s

Honda CRV Sport 6spd manual 125kw/218NM@4200rmin/1580kg
0-100km/h - 8.8s
400m - 15.8s
80-120km/h in 3rd - 5.5
80-120km/h in 4th - 6.9s
80-120km/h in 5th - 9s
80-120km/h in 6th - 10.3s

So in effect a normally aspirated 2.4l weighing almost the same and 100NM down on torque is pretty much on par in the overtaking stakes with the "grunty" TDI....... Off the line and the TDI is no match at all .....

EDIT:
I still have a 2.4 MK2 RAV4 slightly modified to produce 130kw/240NM (until the R arrives) and know that it is both quicker than the CRV and on par with my 125TSI manual off the line. In in-gear overtaking the Tig has it beat though; as brilliant as the VVTI engine is in the Rav it is no match for the petrol turbo torque across 3300rmin of the TSI ....... (and that was with my wife driving the Tig)

Sharkie agree with you that the 125 is great, I love ours and are considering a remap though it doesn't really need it. In fact I am quite disappointed that the SUV car comparisons have concentrated on the TDI and ignored the 125tsi, which bar the Forester XT and RAV4 V6, would beat the others hands down. Have been very impressed with the tractability, go and fuel economy of the 125.

What I will say though, is beware quoting wheels or other mags. I just cant see that those figs for the CRV are correct. If you look at that article 15.8 for the CRV makes no sense, wrong figs or a misprint or something, and 0-100 wasn't 8.8 they had it as 7.8. Given the weight, power and torque of the CRV it just aint going to do what they published. They also mentioned that the overlander was just a bit quicker than the CRV or words to effect and yet they published its figs as 16.6 for the quarter. I'd say the CRV was more like 16.8.

Anyway it doesn't really matter, just be wary/do the reality check