help:tiguan variant can't decide

[snooze]

Hi all,

We saw the tiguan and fell in love, coming from a honda civic auto whenever the car are filled with five passengers, its seem gutless and stressful to move.

Our requirements are:
1)to seat 5 passengers with air cold on and the car can still move without stressing.
2) highway driving and overtaking power.


125TSI
103TDI
147TSI

I test drove the 147TSI and felt its got power to satifised our requirements but abit pricey considering our option addons want leather, sunroof, offroad, park assist, fog lamp.

which automatic variants would suit our need?

and how much would I expect to pay driveaway for the above models and options.

Thanks all in advanced.

[team_v]

125 + chip if you want power with no luxury extra's.

147 if you want power and luxury extras.

103 diesel if you want economy and can be chipped to 125kw.


A quick search wil show the tiguan payment costs from forum members.
Should be able to determine what you want from that.

[Pullstarter]

125+chip=reasonably priced fun

[team_v]

125+chip=reasonably priced fun

That's the path I'm going to take.

[snooze]

I'm too afraid to chip anything to a brand new car

anyone with this model 103TDI, 125TSI will it drive 5 passengers without stressing and still have the grunt for highway and overtaking?

I noticed a 125TDI variant on the internet, will we get this model in australia?

[Arctra]

I'm too afraid to chip anything to a brand new car

anyone with this model 103TDI, 125TSI will it drive 5 passengers without stressing and still have the grunt for highway and overtaking?

I noticed a 125TDI variant on the internet, will we get this model in australia?

I have the TDI and it has enough grunt. Did a long trip up to northern NSW not long after I got it with 4 of us adults in the vehicle it still had plenty space, and we fitted 2 tents and equipment in the boot. Granted, there was no space left in the boot of back shelf, but the point is we were fully loaded. On the long uphills between Newcastle and Sydney we were cruising past other cars with the cruise control on. No mess, no fuss. The auto box is beautifully smooth too.

The 125TDI is not available in Aus but the 103 can be chipped to about that spec vehicle. I have not done it yet as I want to get to the end of manufacturer warrenty before I do it.

I love the TDI but often wonder if I had to do the choosing again if I would go for it knowing I could have got the 125TSI and had it chipped for about the same price. The thing that is attractive about the TSI isn't its higher kW's, it's the fact that is has a "peak" torque over a MUCH wider rev range to keep you pinned back in your seat when accelerating. I do have a soft spot for oil burners though, so I'm very happy with my TDI.

[team_v]

I love the TDI but often wonder if I had to do the choosing again if I would go for it knowing I could have got the 125TSI and had it chipped for about the same price. The thing that is attractive about the TSI isn't its higher kW's, it's the fact that is has a "peak" torque over a MUCH wider rev range to keep you pinned back in your seat when accelerating. I do have a soft spot for oil burners though, so I'm very happy with my TDI.

Again, this was a concern of mine.
The TDI was meant for low end torque and grunting around, but the chip opens up a greater torque band for the TSI engine than the diesels have.

Chipping a new car is not a problem in my eyes.
Just ask sharkie, his has only done 800km and it's going to Guy to get chipped shortly.

The only problem is what happens in 10 years when they remove unleaded fuel and everything goes electric/hydrogen.

[snooze]

I just did some reading regarding the chip, indeed sound very interesting, considering the power increase with the 125kw variant.

is the chip all thats needed to boost the output to 178kw with 360nm torque or other minor mods needed to incorporate this power increase eg. exhaust, air filter etc?

does the chip work along side the offroad option?

[team_v]

I just did some reading regarding the chip, indeed sound very interesting, considering the power increase with the 125kw variant.

is the chip all thats needed to boost the output to 178kw with 360nm torque or other minor mods needed to incorporate this power increase eg. exhaust, air filter etc?

From memory the chip bumps power figures up to 187kw by itself.
With haldex, intake and exhaust you could make over 200kw.

http://goapr.com.au/products/ecu_upgrade_tiguan20tsi.html

Best bet would be to check through the below thread about tiguan tuning or to talk to Guy about the go-fast bits APR provide.

[Arctra]

I just did some reading regarding the chip, indeed sound very interesting, considering the power increase with the 125kw variant.

is the chip all thats needed to boost the output to 178kw with 360nm torque or other minor mods needed to incorporate this power increase eg. exhaust, air filter etc?

does the chip work along side the offroad option?

The "chip" is actually just a remap of your ECU, it's nothing physical from what I understand.

Secondly, the off-road pack just alters the characteristics of the throttle, brakes, and haldex ("locks" it in a 50/50 split of power between front and back rather than varying as needed). So yes, the "chip" will work with the offroad pack.

[snooze]

thanks guys for all ur input.

Im now comtemplating on getting the 125tsi variant with chip in mind.

from what I gathered here:
- Oettinger re-map gives 178KW 360 NM torque approx $2500 (single program)
(I feel this chip would suit me more because of the peace of mind, not too extreme and not a burden on the drive train or gearbox etc..)

- APR re-map gives 189KW 402NM torque approx $2000 with 2 programs, additional program will be extra.
(correct me if I am wrong)

anyone have performance figure for the above mods:
0-100km in how many second (manual & Auto)?
quarter mile time (manual & Auto)?
what RPM range would I expect the power to kick-in?
Just want to compare against the standard spec.

[Sharkie]

I've been through this exact exercise for my brother yesterday .......

Personally I'd buy the 147TSI (if it came in a manual).

BUT .... the 125TSI Auto specced up will have the same basics as the 147 less the sport seats (which you get if you add leather to the 125 anyway), the 17" wheels which are very nice to look at, the RCD510 radio as standard and a few other cosmetics that add nothing really to the value for $4200 less ......

Chip the 125/147TSI and the autos will do 0-100km/h in 6.5s and the quartermile in 14.7s which is pretty good for a SUV. A chipped manual TSI will do it all at least 0.5s quicker yet again. Chipped TDI manual 0-100km/h in 10.0s, auto 10.5s. No real spectactular gains there I'm afraid.

My brother is leaning towards the 125 Auto while I recommend the 147.

I would not recommend the TDI to anybody who want some performance as its only advantage is economy. I would recommend the TDI to anybody chasing economy and a leisurely drive.

[snooze]

Can I ask how much are everyone paying for their insurance premium?

how much does it cost for servicing interval with the tiguan?

[Sanman]

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I would not recommend the TDI to anybody who want some performance as its only advantage is economy. I would recommend the TDI to anybody chasing economy and a leisurely drive.

I bought the TDI not for the economy (there is a 3 year pay back for the increased cost of the diesel motor) but because it drives like a 6 cyl because of the torque and low rpm. As I drive in peak traffic most of the time, it feels like a six, its only when you wind it out through the gears (obviously not in traffic) that it becomes obvious its limited. Even then, its does a good job, mid range pick up on the freeway is excellent. I'd only see an advantage of Petrol if it was manual (And chipped)

Edit: reading Sharkie's spirited response below reminds me that there are two distinct markets for the petrol and diesel engines.

[Sanman]

Can I ask how much are everyone paying for their insurance premium?

how much does it cost for servicing interval with the tiguan?

Incredibly, RACV(NRMA) insurance was hands down cheapest, low $600s
Better than budgetdirect, iBingle etc

I did the research for servicing the Tiguan, it has minor service every 15,000 and major every 30,000 - about $300 and $500. No timing belt required at 90,000 (or ever). It was cheaper than a Holden Captiva to service. Ford Territory is marginally cheaper.