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  • Originally posted by twyat1 View Post
    Hybrid turbos often have upgraded bearings, shaft and better balance. Less chance of going bang. Which makes me curious, did you balance this turbo?

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    Turbo was brand new from VW so would have been balances by IHI
    Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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    • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
      Turbo was brand new from VW so would have been balances by IHI
      One would hope they learned their lesson when the early models went bang they've been balancing them before fitting them

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      • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
        My IS38 is the latest P version so might have slight inprovements over the previous versions.

        I have already asked Gordie to overlay all the IS38 Tigs hes done as he has all the files.

        He said the Snail come on alot later than stock IS38 over 4000rpm, mine is making 25psi at 3000rpm.
        From a cost / power ratio, the bang for bucks is the OEM is38....

        I think overtime, the last 6 years, the OEM is38s have been incrementally improving. The latest versions hopefully have ironed out some of the earlier balancing issues. I think time will tell whether the non is38 hybrids stand the test of time. In terms of a health report I’m 16 months in and have no issues, fingers crossed that remains the case.
        VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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        • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
          From a cost / power ratio, the bang for bucks is the OEM is38....

          I think overtime, the last 6 years, the OEM is38s have been incrementally improving. The latest versions hopefully have ironed out some of the earlier balancing issues. I think time will tell whether the non is38 hybrids stand the test of time. In terms of a health report I’m 16 months in and have no issues, fingers crossed that remains the case.
          Need to update the front page with my details. Razor has put he's car back to stock and is selling it.
          Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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          • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
            Need to update the front page with my details. Razor has put he's car back to stock and is selling it.
            Hi inasnt, I updated the front page as soon as you posted about your is38 upgrade.

            Shame about Razor, is he upgrading his car? What’s happening with his parts, that could build another sleeper Tig...
            VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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            • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
              Hi inasnt, I updated the front page as soon as you posted about your is38 upgrade.

              Shame about Razor, is he upgrading his car? What’s happening with his parts, that could build another sleeper Tig...
              Razors parts are all for sale.

              Actuator similar to IS20 not diverter.
              Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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              • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                Razors parts are all for sale.

                Actuator similar to IS20 not diverter.
                Updated.
                VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                • For those of you who had IS38 or hybrid turbo upgrades, how does every day driving feel? Much different to the Tig OEM?

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                  • Originally posted by Wolfsburger View Post
                    For those of you who had IS38 or hybrid turbo upgrades, how does every day driving feel? Much different to the Tig OEM?
                    Maybe a little bit more lap under 3000rpm, but from 3000rpm a different ball games.

                    Gave it a bit of a quirt on the weekend, was getting traction control flashing at 5000rpm in 2nd gear.. Might need some new tyres, car at 34k atm.
                    Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                    • For a daily driver mine's fine when left in D mode. The wife's comment to me after driving it post stage 3 mods was that it was "a bit nipper" in some situations.
                      I just warned her not to smash the accelerator in any situation. Whilst the TTE475 hybrid spools later than the IS38 it packs a punch when unleashed.

                      Having the DSG tuned makes a big difference even if stage 1. It holds gears longer, whereas OEM spec seems to want to race to 7th gear no matter what, and shifts with a tuned DSG are quicker and smoother in both directions.

                      IMO I was never happy with how the stock Tig drove. Some don't seem to mind it.

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                      • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
                        That’s good news on both fronts! Sounds like it’s coming just in time for Christmas. Be good to hear your experiences with each of the stages including the latest is38 upgrade.

                        I’m going in for my 2 year service next week - with around 14 months and 15k km on the IS38. It’s been smooth sailing, after getting over the initial niggles with the O2 sensor CEL.
                        Hey mate, do you remember what sort of performance figures you got prior to IS38 upgrade but with all the other mods?
                        Thanks

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                        • Upgraded turbo is so much better. The IS20 spools way too early for the size of the car especially with stage 2. Traction was forever an issue. I personally prefer the turbo achieving full boost after 3k.

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                          • Originally posted by Wolfsburger View Post
                            Hey mate, do you remember what sort of performance figures you got prior to IS38 upgrade but with all the other mods?
                            Thanks
                            Look at my dyno graphs of stock, stage 1, stage 2 and stage compo on the previous pages
                            Last edited by INASNT; 09-12-2019, 09:05 PM.
                            Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                            • Originally posted by Wolfsburger View Post
                              Hey mate, do you remember what sort of performance figures you got prior to IS38 upgrade but with all the other mods?
                              Thanks
                              Hi Wolfsburger, stage 1 was around 5.4s 0-100. I didn’t go stage 2 and went straight to is38....Inasnt has done all three stages, he might be able to shed some light on the performance figures...
                              VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                              • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
                                Hi Wolfsburger, stage 1 was around 5.4s 0-100. I didn’t go stage 2 and went straight to is38....Inasnt has done all three stages, he might be able to shed some light on the performance figures...
                                Thanks mate

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