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    Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
    The tuner will use that to get an accurate boost reading while tuning the engine. But otherwise, it can be used to run a boost gauge on a day to day basis.
    Correct this is mainly to make sure the boost readings being taken off the OBD port are accurate.

    This ensures the tuner isn’t dialling in too much (or not enough) boost.

    I probably won’t run a boost gauge. The only thing I usually keep an eye on is oil temps to make sure it’s ok to give it some beans.

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    Last edited by tigger73; 13-06-2019, 06:14 PM.

    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
    - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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    • Well it’s going to take a bit longer...

      Had the car on the dyno yesterday and was run up on the low boost file but ended up taking it off and doing another revision on the road as the shop was closing.

      It’s definitely quicker and pulls like a train. Just had issues with traction when launching as it was still a bit damp and spun all 4. Once it hooked up it was great.




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      2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

      2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
      2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
      2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
      - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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      • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
        Well it’s going to take a bit longer...

        Had the car on the dyno yesterday and was run up on the low boost file but ended up taking it off and doing another revision on the road as the shop was closing.

        It’s definitely quicker and pulls like a train. Just had issues with traction when launching as it was still a bit damp and spun all 4. Once it hooked up it was great.




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        I'm thinking you might need to take your car to a different shop to get it done once and right.....

        May need to venture to NSW or MEL.
        Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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        • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
          I'm thinking you might need to take your car to a different shop to get it done once and right.....

          May need to venture to NSW or MEL.
          It’s getting tuned by E-tuners Motorsport.

          I’m not going to take it interstate if I can help it. I have done this in the past and know a few others who have done this also and it doesn’t always work out. If you ever have issues or need the car retuned it becomes a bit of a nightmare to be honest.


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          2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

          2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
          2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
          2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
          - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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          • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
            Well it’s going to take a bit longer...

            Had the car on the dyno yesterday and was run up on the low boost file but ended up taking it off and doing another revision on the road as the shop was closing.

            It’s definitely quicker and pulls like a train. Just had issues with traction when launching as it was still a bit damp and spun all 4. Once it hooked up it was great.




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            How did it go on the dyno on the low file?

            Do they have to send the file to Greece to get it customised ?
            VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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            • Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline





              Dyno results for the low boost file above (blue line). This is around 21psi and is 205-210kwaw on a “normal” dyno. This particular dyno reads about 20kwaw low.

              You can see that the turbo comes on boost and is able to hold it all the way through to redline.

              The red curve above shows the second file that was put in and the ECU protection cutting in just as it was ramping up. Unfortunately we ran into closing time for the dyno centre/workshop (Friday night) so ended up with a revised file and road logging only.

              New file is quicker than the low boost file but these a few more revisions required before we’ll call it “done”.


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              2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

              2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
              2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
              2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
              - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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              • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
                Do they have to send the file to Greece to get it customised ?
                Yes files are written in Greece and then sent to Melbourne where the adjustments are made for local fuel. They are then coded and sent on to Adelaide where they're written into the vehicle. There's probably 1 step in the process more than "ideal", however as long as everyone is online at the same time it works reasonably well. For the small amount of delay in getting files turned around it's really not worth driving the car to Melbourne.

                2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post




                  Dyno results for the low boost file above (blue line). This is around 21psi and is 205-210kwaw on a “normal” dyno. This particular dyno reads about 20kwaw low.

                  You can see that the turbo comes on boost and is able to hold it all the way through to redline.

                  The red curve above shows the second file that was put in and the ECU protection cutting in just as it was ramping up. Unfortunately we ran into closing time for the dyno centre/workshop (Friday night) so ended up with a revised file and road logging only.

                  New file is quicker than the low boost file but these a few more revisions required before we’ll call it “done”.


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                  The mainline dyno is a heart breaker dyno...
                  Not a bad result, but was expecting significantly more from the 475HP TTE and HPFP. Did the tuner say there was more in it ?

                  As a comparison you should do another gtech run when it’s dry....
                  VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                  • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
                    The mainline dyno is a heart breaker dyno...
                    Not a bad result, but was expecting significantly more from the 475HP TTE and HPFP. Did the tuner say there was more in it ?

                    As a comparison you should do another gtech run when it’s dry....
                    There's probably another 8psi in it if I wanted it which would be ~80kwaw give or take. I'm going to go slightly more conservative than that but we'll see what happens with timing retard as more boost is added.

                    I'll do another run when there's a window of opportunity with some dry road.

                    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                    2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                    - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                    • Given the extra go the car has now I decided that I'd better match it with some extra stopping power so I'm getting a set of the Alcon 6 pots with DBA T3 rotors fitted up tomorrow.... a bit of EOFY special treatment for the Tig






                      2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                      2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                      2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                      2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                      - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                      • Alcon BBK fitted up - Alcon CAR97 6 piston calipers, Forza FP3 Brake Pads, DBA52902.1S brake rotors, FCH098 Forza Custom Hat, T-sharp Bobbin hardware kit, ATE SL6 DOT4 brake fluid:

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                        2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                        2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                        2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                        2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                        - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                        • Nice! Notice much difference?
                          2006 MkV 2.0TDI -> 2005 MkV GTI -> 2008 MkV R32 -> 2013 Polo 77TSI + 2016 Mk7 Golf R Wagon

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                          • Originally posted by shauno View Post
                            Nice! Notice much difference?
                            Other than looks??

                            Still bedding in. Need to do a few 100-0 stops and maybe bleed them again. They do pull up better and I get more nose dive under heavier braking so they're pulling up harder.

                            2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                            2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                            2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                            2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                            - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                            • I took the car for a bit of a shake-down run on the weekend through the hills and even without the last couple of psi boost it's still got plenty of go. Brakes held up well but clearly the next item on the list is to upgrade the tyres as I'm still running the stock 235/35R20 Pirelli Scorpion Verde's. They are a decent higher mileage SUV tyre but a fair way from a performance tyre so not sure if/when they'll come off as there's still a decent amount of tread left and currently at 23,000km.

                              New brakes are good. They are nice and progressive and if you really stand on them they pull up very well. I'm still due to take the car back and get them re-bled to remove any last bit of air from the system so I'll reserve my final judgement until then. Currently pedal travel is probably more than what I'd really like but that may be the last bit of air in the system.
                              Last edited by tigger73; 25-06-2019, 11:20 PM.

                              2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                              2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                              2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                              2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                              - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                              • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                                I took the car for a bit of a shake-down run on the weekend through the hills and even without the last couple of psi boost it's still got plenty of go. Brakes held up well but clearly the next item on the list is to upgrade the tyres as I'm still running the stock 235/35R20 Pirelli Scorpion Verde's. They are a decent higher mileage SUV tyre but a fair way from a performance tyre so not sure if/when they'll come off as there's still a decent amount of tread left and currently at 23,000km.

                                New brakes are good. They are nice and progressive and if you really stand on them they pull up very well. I'm still due to take the car back and get them re-bled to remove any last bit of air from the system so I'll reserve my final judgement until then. Currently pedal travel is probably more than what I'd really like but that may be the last bit of air in the system.
                                That break package should be like light and day from the stock units... once bedded in and fully bleed...
                                Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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