Amarok DPF issues

[jeromeo]

I’d like to know more about what my dpf is up to... I’m not worried about it or anything.

I used OBD Fusion this morning on the way to work and noticed the egr gas temps jump from 350ish to nearly 700 ish on my way to work, assume this is the burn happening.

Has anyone got any iOS app that’s as good as VAG DPF for info??

Cheers,
JB


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For apple only your ears.... [emoji23].

The revs will go around 900 RPM when idling when engine is at running temperature.

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[doinitsideways]

Yeah, I’ve noticed the jump in revs... and again, not concerned, I just drive like usual.

But I’m curious to see some of the info that’s available... especially to give a baseline in case there are issues 100 thou from now...


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[frednerkenstein]

Anyone know how much soot is too much? I have fixed my issue with VAG DPF and have also installed Torque on my phone. I have 20 grams of soot currently showing and 248km since my last burn.

[jeromeo]

Anyone know how much soot is too much? I have fixed my issue with VAG DPF and have also installed Torque on my phone. I have 20 grams of soot currently showing and 248km since my last burn.

Don't worry she will eventually do a burn.

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[cru22z]

[QUOTE=Kachingg;1297734]My Alltrack diesel regens every 300 kilometers regardless of my driving or conditions have had it start a regen coming off a offramp after a 400 kilometer 110kph non stop run!
I like transporter use a fuel additive and every 5000k a regen additive i have not had any issues with dpf lights or limp modes[/QUOTE

Do you see any white puff of smoke when you take off during regen at the lights??

[cru22z]

Dpf

Do you see any white puff of smoke when you take off during regen at the lights??

[Core420]

I have had my Core 420 for 3 years now and 45k. It's used mainly for long trips; 200+km at a time on country roads. I have not seen the dpf burn light come on yet. I do have a catch can though, maybe that makes a difference.

[Transporter]

Amarok DPF issues

I have had my Core 420 for 3 years now and 45k. It's used mainly for long trips; 200+km at a time on country roads. I have not seen the dpf burn light come on yet. I do have a catch can though, maybe that makes a difference.

When you drive longer trips, you most likely will never see the DPF light.

When I had TDI420 Amarok, I haven’t seen the DPF light despite my trips were usually short but had longer one once a week or two.

The V6 TDI wants to regenerate bit more often approximately every 300km and does throw out the DPF light with message “DPF See Owner’s Manual” after which I recommend you don’t turn the engine off. Just drive in S mode somewhere with less traffic lights until the DPF light turns off.

Using good fuel additive (like Nulon Diesel Fuel Detox) 100% of time will help to reduce the soot particles and significantly shorten time needed for regeneration. I also use Penrite DPF Cleaner every 3,000km.

[Kachingg]

No i don't notice any white smoke on take off

I use liquid moly diesel clean and boost for every tank of fuel seems to work well and i notice a little less diesel clatter and a bit more torque due to slightly higher cetane level probably only noticeable because it's tuned

[Lucas_R]

I have had my Core 420 for 3 years now and 45k. It's used mainly for long trips; 200+km at a time on country roads. I have not seen the dpf burn light come on yet. I do have a catch can though, maybe that makes a difference.

Catch can makes no different to DPF regens - it only helps to capture some of the blow by and stop that goes through your engine. Not sure about the Amarok, but no other VW, Skoda or Audi TDI that ive been in have had any kind of light or indication that the DPF is doing a regen. My 2015 Audi SQ5 does a regen every 500-600km and i use an app called VAGDPF to monitor it, and there is absolutely zero chance that the driver could know the car is doing a regen without the app.

[jasone19]

I also have major issues with the DPF on my 2017 auto V6 Amarok. The DPF light comes on and then goes straight into limp mode. I can eventually get the DPF light to come on and come out of limp mode so I can get it to burn but by that stage I have stopped and restarted the car about 10 times and the engine light has come one by this stage. I'm lucky I have a neigbour with a scan tool that can clear my codes.

I have been told that the temp needs to be at normal operating temperature, drive at 70km/h or more for 20mins or more and it must have more than half a tank of fuel, otherwise it wont do a burn.

A European car built for European conditions not a car suitable for Sydney driving. Whilst I bought mine second hand with only 10k on the clock I was never oncve told about the DPF driving requirments.

Does the 4 cycl also have the same issues. I have been told it will do a burn at anytime when required regardless of the driving conditions or requirements.

Maybe it's time we go to VW Australia as a collective and start demanding a resolution to this problem. And it sound as though there is a large number of us that are having the issues.

[Lucas_R]

I also have major issues with the DPF on my 2017 auto V6 Amarok. The DPF light comes on and then goes straight into limp mode. I can eventually get the DPF light to come on and come out of limp mode so I can get it to burn but by that stage I have stopped and restarted the car about 10 times and the engine light has come one by this stage. I'm lucky I have a neighbour with a scan tool that can clear my codes.

I have been told that the temp needs to be at normal operating temperature, drive at 70km/h or more for 20mins or more and it must have more than half a tank of fuel, otherwise it wont do a burn.

A European car built for European conditions not a car suitable for Sydney driving. Whilst I bought mine second hand with only 10k on the clock I was never once told about the DPF driving requirements.

Does the 4 cycl also have the same issues. I have been told it will do a burn at anytime when required regardless of the driving conditions or requirements.

Maybe it's time we go to VW Australia as a collective and start demanding a resolution to this problem. And it sound as though there is a large number of us that are having the issues.

Notes from my pain and learnings with my Audi SQ5 (similar engine to the V6 Amarok so similar DPF behaviour). And yes the 4 cylinder diesel Amarok would also be similar.

- Oil temp of 80 degrees or more (which it wont get to without at least 15 mins of driving - these engines takes a long time to warm up)
- More than 1/4 tank of diesel (I try to keep my car above 1/2 tank at all times for this reason)
- No need to be doing a certain speed, but it can trigger the procedure earlier if you are going at a decent rate of speed (eg freeway)
- Procedure to clean the DPF's completely takes a good 15-20 mins in which you should not turn the engine off until its finished. (if you do turn off the engine while the procedure is still going the engine fans will be running flat out and will continue to run for a period of time after the engine is turned off. Also you cannot hear the fans running until the engine is turned off).
- You do not need to be driving at high speed for the DPF regen to commence or take place. Once it starts, you can potter around town/idle at traffic lights etc and it will still continue, but it seems to be a faster procedure when travelling at constant speed.

For a very small outlay, I suggest you buy yourself this Carista dongle Carista OBD2 Diagnostic Scanner and Customiser for Android and iOS – AutoInstruct and then this app for Android phone called VAG DPF and then you can do the following:

- Use VAGDPF app to connect to the Carista dongle to monitor the DPF levels and you then know roughly when the DPF needs to regenerate. The app also tells you when a DPF regen starts and when it stops. My car needs to do a DPF regen every 450-500km so im guessing your car will be similar.

- Use the Carista app and dongle to check and reset any error codes you have so you dont need to bother your neighbour all the time.

Some info and screenshots here of the VAG interface. Im an iPhone user so just bought a $50 Android phone from the Post Office to use for this purpose specifically: VAG DPF app on Android to monitor DPF

[Transporter]

Mine is 2019 V6 16month old and done just 6500km of mostly short trips. I saw the DPF light on 2x. The first time it came on, I didn’t stop and just kept driving and it regenerated in under 20minutes of the hills driving. The second time it came on I’ve noticed that after ignoring the DPF light for a few times it went into the limp mode, but I was able to force regeneration using the scanner.

From my observation the V6 I have will try to regenerate again after interruption of the regen process in the next driving cycle and the temperature could be much less than 70degC, also the fuel level could be at minimum and it will happily regenerate. I went days with interrupted regenerations until it eventually regenerated.

Though, it’s not normal to drive all the time with the cold engine, so I don’t see it as the manufacturer fault. It’s more like using the car in the way it should never be used.

[Lucas_R]

It’s more like using the car in the way it should never be used.

This is true and correct and I agree with you - the issue is that the manufacturers (not just VW, all manufacturers who sell diesel vehicles) and the dealerships should be disclosing this information very clearly so that customers can opt to buy a petrol engine if they regularly do short trips or potter around town. Dealership salesman should be given some basic training on diesels vs petrol and talk to customers about their driving habits etc and steer them towards the most suitable model for them. Of course this will never happen because the salesman couldnt give 2 $h!ts and just wants you to buy the car he will make the most profit on, but this is what should be happening.

Problem is that you are basically forced to buy a diesel these days with modern ute's and SUV's because any petrol variants they offer (IF they offer a petrol variant) are pathetically underpowered for such a big heavy car, and/or will only be available in the base model.

[Transporter]

This is true and correct and I agree with you - the issue is that the manufacturers (not just VW, all manufacturers who sell diesel vehicles) and the dealerships should be disclosing this information very clearly so that customers can opt to buy a petrol engine if they regularly do short trips or potter around town. Dealership salesman should be given some basic training on diesels vs petrol and talk to customers about their driving habits etc and steer them towards the most suitable model for them. Of course this will never happen because the salesman couldnt give 2 $h!ts and just wants you to buy the car he will make the most profit on, but this is what should be happening.

Problem is that you are basically forced to buy a diesel these days with modern ute's and SUV's because any petrol variants they offer (IF they offer a petrol variant) are pathetically underpowered for such a big heavy car.

You’re 100% right. The buyers should be told.