Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[team_v]

Does anyone know what the go is with the pricing for the EA888 intake and boost tap compared to the US ones...

intake for U.S is $450.00, for oz 800$
boost tap is 70$ for U.S, and 130$ for oz.

??

could only imagine selling a kidney for a tune. :/

This has been covered thousands of times on the forums.
Local stores charge more as they have to pay higher rent than US, higher salaries for staff and contribution to super in addition to us having a far smaller customer base to recover costs from.

[Gary_s]

I want a 2015 build (not compliance) so will order in November for a March/April delivery.

Blue, manual with leather. No other options ....... other than full APR Stg2

My dealer told me June/July delivery for a 15 build, and that's dsg.. If it's March/April I'll wait! I'll double check this Saturday

[hainsey]

This has been covered thousands of times on the forums.
Local stores charge more as they have to pay higher rent than US, higher salaries for staff and contribution to super in addition to us having a far smaller customer base to recover costs from.

Good response mate didn't think of all that, all I really could think of was that they where trying to re-coup all of the R&D money invested, but then realised that all the R&D has been done by APR so all should cost the same… thanks

Is there anything stopping us from buying an intake or other hardware items from an APR dealer in the states, [which for intake should be no more the 100$ to ship here], and fitting ourselves if mechanically knowledgeable, or getting an apr dealer to fit it, after all that you would still be better off surely. obviously we cannot get the corresponding software changes without paying for them but it seems exuberant almost doubling the standalone cost…..

gets me thinking

[7R]

One of the main reasons I bought the R was to get a sunroof... GTI PP = no sunroof = no purchase. The other stuff in the R (AWD, added power, subtle treatment etc) is all good too!

[team_v]

Good response mate didn't think of all that, all I really could think of was that they where trying to re-coup all of the R&D money invested, but then realised that all the R&D has been done by APR so all should cost the same… thanks

Is there anything stopping us from buying an intake or other hardware items from an APR dealer in the states, [which for intake should be no more the 100$ to ship here], and fitting ourselves if mechanically knowledgeable, or getting an apr dealer to fit it, after all that you would still be better off surely. obviously we cannot get the corresponding software changes without paying for them but it seems exuberant almost doubling the standalone cost…..

gets me thinking

From memory APR Australia has the exclusive rights for sale of APR gear in Australia so trying to buy from APR USA directly is not possible.

[jonoz]

From memory APR Australia has the exclusive rights for sale of APR gear in Australia so trying to buy from APR USA directly is not possible.

Plenty of ways around that;

https://www.priceusa.com.au/

USA Address & Mail Forwarding – Shipito.com | English

Just do your homework and check any extra GST etc. that may be payable on anything that you purchase.

[hainsey]

Plenty of ways around that;

https://www.priceusa.com.au/

USA Address & Mail Forwarding – Shipito.com | English

Just do your homework and check any extra GST etc. that may be payable on anything that you purchase.

Have emailed an apr dealer in the states and will possibly be setting up group buys for people who are willing, he thinks he can sell everything to us apart from the hardware items that design is affected due to LHD issues...
they have quoted 55$ for shipping and 450$ for the intake to be shipped to Brisbane qld

more info to come. And they said if they send as a gift it will not incur gst costings

[Adrian_R]

I give the group buy 5 minutes before Guy Harding is on the phone to APR HQ and puts stop to it

more info to come. And they said if they send as a gift it will not incur gst costings

ANY purchase over $1000 AUD in value is subject to GST on entry into the country. Gifts included.

[hainsey]

Look I understand that EVERYONE is trying to make an honest living, but I don't see that if you can save yourself some cash in the process you would be dumbfounded not too. Obviously there are some things we cannot buy an fit ourselves and that's fine but I don't see the point in forking out double for the exact same product, and fair enough there are some people out there who aren't mechanically inclined and do need the shop to do certain things, and good on them for doing what they love, but if there is an alternative them people are going to take it, especially when you can save in excess of 400$ on one product, imagine how much you would save once you get to stage 2 or 2+.

I don't think the order can be stopped, from an unknown dealer in the states to an unknown shipping address I just don't understand how it's possible

[tigger73]

The problem/challenge as I see it with the APR product/pricing in Australia is that in the supply chain there is a manufacturer, an importer, a reseller and the government also takes a cut in the form of import duties and GST. In the US there is only a manufacturer and reseller plus a lot more competition in the marketplace so it's a no-brainer that you're going to see cheaper pricing in the US.

I agree it's frustrating seeing the pricing that other places in world get for the same product. In the past people have tried to go around the exclusive agreements that have been in place to protect the APR dealers in Australia. Although it may be possible to find a US based dealer to ship to a forwarder, what you are doing (in a small way) is killing the local industry.

Now I'm all for competition and getting good deals on parts. If you don't want to pay full price perhaps you're better off waiting until the next APR sale. That way you can get a discount as well as support the local guys.

[hainsey]

I 100% agree with what you are saying with supporting the local guys, and I am a part of that too, being a mechanic in the army it gets drilled into us to buy local and support your garrison city. But it come a point in time when you sit back and think that a 450$ part is almost exactly doubled and sold to us and the same principal applies to a part that is 60 dollars and then doubled, how is the margin the same for these parts ( approx. 90-100%) when gst and overheads are considered, and it's is to be believed that the same margin applies for a cheaper part. Seems fishy but you are right, these guys are trying to make a living and I would rather them do it this way than breaking the law.

but a 100% mark up, really???

[avdo_]

I 100% agree with what you are saying with supporting the local guys, and I am a part of that too, being a mechanic in the army it gets drilled into us to buy local and support your garrison city. But it come a point in time when you sit back and think that a 450$ part is almost exactly doubled and sold to us and the same principal applies to a part that is 60 dollars and then doubled, how is the margin the same for these parts ( approx. 90-100%) when gst and overheads are considered, and it's is to be believed that the same margin applies for a cheaper part. Seems fishy but you are right, these guys are trying to make a living and I would rather them do it this way than breaking the law.

but a 100% mark up, really???

One thing you have forgotten to take into consideration is that the dealers here dont pay retail prices from USA distributors

[hainsey]

One thing you have forgotten to take into consideration is that the dealers here dont pay retail prices from USA distributors

So they don't get their apr parts from apr directly?? Same as what the states dealers would?

[Guy_H]

I 100% agree with what you are saying with supporting the local guys, and I am a part of that too, being a mechanic in the army it gets drilled into us to buy local and support your garrison city. But it come a point in time when you sit back and think that a 450$ part is almost exactly doubled and sold to us and the same principal applies to a part that is 60 dollars and then doubled, how is the margin the same for these parts ( approx. 90-100%) when gst and overheads are considered, and it's is to be believed that the same margin applies for a cheaper part. Seems fishy but you are right, these guys are trying to make a living and I would rather them do it this way than breaking the law.

but a 100% mark up, really???

Hainsey,

I can 100% guarantee you there is no massive markup in any of the APR hardware - pure & simple fact. The margins are slim. We pay import duty (not made in the USA), we pay customs clearance charges & we pay GST.

We also run a warehouse, we hold local stock (so if you have a warranty issue, its swapped over), we run a tech team & sales team.

Unfortunately APR don't pay us to do this, we choose to do this to offer the best support for the product.

Only people who run business's would fully understand. Simply Australia is one of the most expensive places in the world to do business.

Lets just hope they don't outsource Army maintenance to our neighbouring countries (Like Qantas has) or import workers who will do the job for 1/3rd of the price. This is part of the reason for the current rate of business closures & the record unemployment rate.

P.S. Any APR dealer worldwide that is caught selling outside of their sales area will risk having their APR dealer status suspended or cancelled. The same goes for us when we get asked to ship internationally. To respect the other business's we will honour our APR contract.

[hainsey]

Cheers Guy,

in no way was I trying to say you guys are frauding the system all I was trying to ask was why they are so different to the States prices and if so, what is stopping people from buying over from there and not here.

Really good answer mate, ticks all the boxes. And I have read on Here about the support that the dealers for apr Australia have and uphold.

I honestly do feel sorry for you guys when it comes down to it though and that you are trying to make an honest living and have to compete with people that don't have the overheads that we do here. But when push comes to shove, people will be put in the position Of the cheaper option, just like you said, economy, employment rate. Etc. and the repercussions of this are and have already been quite noticeble all over the country and parts of the world. Holden and ford and seat (blasphemy).

Again mate, thanks for the answer, I have one more question though,
How does apr know if you do sell outside of your jurisdiction?? Are all parts serial tracked or similar, or is it just not done out of fear of contract termination and respect for the brand??
people have different morals and so If there is a way to track these parts then I find it highly unlikely that a dealer in another country would take the gamble..

Cheers