Is your Mk6 a DSG or manual?

[Tornado_ALIVE]

Why not use the 6 speed DSG for all DSG Golfs.

[Diesel_vert]

Why not use the 6 speed DSG for all DSG Golfs.

The 7-speed DSG (0AM) is more efficient because it uses dry clutches, has a wider spread of gear ratios, weighs less, is maintenance free and presumably costs VW less to build (though that might have been countered by unforeseen warranty costs). It all sounds great on paper, doesn't it?

To be fair, the unit works pretty well for the most part, given its intended application (road cars that are predominately driven on the public highway) - it's just that VW were caught on the wrong side of its cost vs reliability analysis.

[SilvrFoxX]

Just to add fuel to the fire.. my previous comments about the end of the manual transmission over time appear to have some currency

Drive - Porsche Could Discontinue Manual Gearbox

[Lucas_R]

Continuing on from my previous post below, my mates DSG is dead as a doornail. He is looking at approx $2,700 for a new mechatronics unit (from Harding Performance with a 3-4 week wait), DSG oil and filter change (needs to be done when replacing mechatronics despite having the DSG serviced about 1 year ago), and the labour component. It's going to be somewhere around $4,000 - 4,500.

Just to further reinforce my decision to get a manual.....ive got my friends Mk5 GTI (90kms on the clock) stuck on my front lawn with presumably a failed mechatronics for the DSG.

The car has no forward or reverse drive, gears are flashing on the MFD, and the car cranks but only starts every now and then (but cranks for ages before it starts).

Tow truck to get it tomorrow and take it to the mechanic.

[Transporter]

Continuing on from my previous post below, my mates DSG is dead as a doornail. He is looking at approx $2,700 for a new mechatronics unit (from Harding Performance with a 3-4 week wait), DSG oil and filter change (needs to be done when replacing mechatronics despite having the DSG serviced about 1 year ago), and the labour component. It's going to be somewhere around $4,000 - 4,500.

Who did the diagnose?

[Lucas_R]

Who did the diagnose?

A combination of me (with VCDS initially) and the Euro specialist mechanic my mate uses to do his normal servicing.

- Car wont start (cranks for ever but wont start)
- PRND gears flash on the MFD
- Several errors for DSG and ECU on VCDS scan (can't remember the errors as they are on my home computer).

[Diesel_vert]

Continuing on from my previous post below, my mates DSG is dead as a doornail. He is looking at approx $2,700 for a new mechatronics unit (from Harding Performance with a 3-4 week wait), DSG oil and filter change (needs to be done when replacing mechatronics despite having the DSG serviced about 1 year ago), and the labour component. It's going to be somewhere around $4,000 - 4,500.

Man, four grand out the door + stress... wouldn't wish that upon anybody.

Options look bleak, poor bloke.

[Lucas_R]

Man, four grand out the door + stress... wouldn't wish that upon anybody.

Options look bleak, poor bloke.

Yeh it sucks but what can you do....

Funny thing that i cant get my head around is that the car was fine one minute, broken the next. He literally drove it away from my house to get something at the shops, then returned to my place, turned the car off.........then a few minutes later went to start the car and MFD flash + endless starter motor cranking.

[Tobes_WIR35]

I guess with mechatronics it wouldn't take much force to break them or for them to malfunction. If it was a problem with the "load bearing" side of the transmission you'd probably feel it coming...

[Tobes_WIR35]

BTW is that mechatronics unit brand new or is it a refurbished one that he trades his broken one in for or something?

There wouldn't be that much in fixing them.

[Lucas_R]

Its brand new according to HP. There are reconditioned ones available that are cheaper aswell.

STANDARD HARDWARE

= Dual Mass Flywheels -
= Mechatronics unit – New (12 months warranty)
= Mechatronics unit – Reconditioned (3 months warranty)
= New DSG transmissions (12 months warranty)
= Reconditioned DSG transmissions (3 months warranty)

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f177/harding-performance-dsg-software-hardware-program-73662.html

[Tobes_WIR35]

I reckon I'd be happy with a reconditioned one. As long as its done properly of course.

So is he going to keep the failed one? I'd be interested to pull it apart. I'm an electrical engineer and I'm doing a PLC programming course with a mechatronics engineer, it'd be cool to pull apart.

[Lucas_R]

Is your Mk6 a DSG or manual?

Yeah ill leave it up to my mate to decide on whether he chooses a new or reco'd mechatronics unit. I was told that the new ones are about a 4 week wait, so if the reco'd ones can be supplied quicker then he might go with that option and presumably save a few bucks at the same time.

I'll ask him to request the broken mechatronics back from the mechanic.

[Tom87]

I reckon I'd be happy with a reconditioned one. As long as its done properly of course.

So is he going to keep the failed one? I'd be interested to pull it apart. I'm an electrical engineer and I'm doing a PLC programming course with a mechatronics engineer, it'd be cool to pull apart.

Here ya go:

VW Mechatronic Unit - DSG DQ250 02E - YouTube

[Cavill]

There was this VW TV ad that showed a white DSG effortlessly overtaking a truck. Looking at the driver I saw no gearshifting so I assumed he had the DSG box.

This ad swayed my opinion into going for the 7sp D*****S***G******.

Lucky I am still alive after the multitude of 'DSG failure' fails I have experienced trying to drive this car.